Any Shops do Dyno tune without the needing of a piggyback device like Powercommander?

[G21forme]

Care to elaborate?

Took my first bike there and got a 900$ oil change, ride off with zero coolant in the bike. Didn't do anything I paid them to do.

[Dip Dungles]

Care to elaborate?

+1 bc I was interested in calling him for a tune

[boloson]

Took my first bike there and got a 900$ oil change, ride off with zero coolant in the bike. Didn't do anything I paid them to do.

so no dyno? no printout i assume? that's messed up. what did they say when u questioned them?

[tls25rs]

Eric Paquette at DAS Performance on Bridge St. In Dracut can also address any Dyno/tuning needs anyone may have. He is a friend of mine and builds some pretty trick stuff for his personal bikes and can apply that knowledge to the tuning he does for his customers.

Joel

[SVenpointsixtwo]

The PC map is a delta correct against whatever the ECU is tossing out, so an all '0's map in the PC will leave you with the exact same tune you have right now. You'll want to get a custom map on the PC as all the downloadable ones are based against an un-flashed factory ECU.

Thanks, that's exactly what I was wondering. So, logical step would be to use the Yoshi box to set the ECU back to stock, then install PC3. Sometimes I miss carbed bikes!

[Kurlon]

Thanks, that's exactly what I was wondering. So, logical step would be to use the Yoshi box to set the ECU back to stock, then install PC3. Sometimes I miss carbed bikes!

If the stock ECU with Yosh map is close, and you're going to get the bike mapped anyways, I'd leave the ECU alone and map against it as is. Down the road, if you decide to toss the PC3 you'll still have the Yosh tweaks and not be that far off.

If you're not going to get it mapped, why waste the money on a PC if you're going to toss in a pre-made map and only be close to right again?

[csmutty]

Only place I'd take my bike to get dyno work done...

http://www.dyno-solutions.com/

[Mustang]

I have a power commander II on a honda blackbird with a full two brothers exhaust... It was tuned but it just runs funny and I'd like someone with a dyno to put a sniffer in and see if the AFRs need work. If I put anything but a quality 93 octane in the bike runs very poor under 5000 rpms

Not looking to spend too much money, with my cars cost was normally 70 an hour for the dyno 150 an hour labor, not sure what bikes are, anyone know of a place willing to take this on? Seems like people know the places with dynos in this thread... not trying to hijack

Though it's a bit of a haul for you, John at Dyno Solutions in Brookfield CT can do great stuff for your bike for a very reasonable price. Gino and Chuck have both made the trek from eastern MA to see him...

[Streetlethal100]

Robb's Dyno can flash a stock ECU.

Majority of the people here will recommend not doing it, and just getting a PCV, Bazzazz, or Yamaha ECU kit.

Can you elaborate? I was also thinking of having the ECU flash. Whats better then fixing the issue from the source and not adding a "fake out" module on top. A dam dyno jet costs nearly 400 dollars plus a 200 dollar dyno tune. I like to ride, but for the medium performance change, its not worth that. Im only looking to smooth out the RPM range, and get rid of the low end bog down.

I dont have a completely rebuilt bike and Im not trying to tweak it just right for the track.

[Jim]

I dont have a completely rebuilt bike and Im not trying to tweak it just right for the track.

then save the $300 and dont get it tuned. you dont need it.

to answer your question though, you wouldnt want to trust one shop doing a tune on a specific tool that most of the shops wont have experience using. on top of that, he doesnt have much experience himself on the ECU flash. there's tons of people that can tune a 3rd party device, and barely anyone can tune a stock ECU. not worth the risk if you ask me.

[Streetlethal100]

Well this is where Im at...

I started on a SV650, rode that hard and learned a lot, then picked up the ZX6R. Once I started getting used to the ZX6R I upgraded to some nice sticky Perreli tires. The next weakest link is the throttle/engine acceleration. I dont need the bike any faster, but I think I would notice and appreciate if the acceleration was a bit smoother. Along with a side problem I cant put my finger on: The bike just seems to bog off the line way more then it should. So I figured 150 bucks is reasonable for what I am looking to get out of it.

I may also throw a smaller rear sprocket on there too to add a little more torque to compensate for my low end problem.

[CBR929RE]

Well this is where Im at...

I started on a SV650, rode that hard and learned a lot, then picked up the ZX6R. Once I started getting used to the ZX6R I upgraded to some nice sticky Perreli tires. The next weakest link is the throttle/engine acceleration. I dont need the bike any faster, but I think I would notice and appreciate if the acceleration was a bit smoother. Along with a side problem I cant put my finger on: The bike just seems to bog off the line way more then it should. So I figured 150 bucks is reasonable for what I am looking to get out of it.

I may also throw a smaller rear sprocket on there too to add a little more torque to compensate for my low end problem.

smaller rear sprocket is only gonna make you get off the line slower. go bigger and you're rpms will be higher and hopefully above the boggy spot. or try slipping the clutch a little more. don't just idle off the line, give it a little gas.

[Streetlethal100]

Sorry, My bad with the sprocket size. You are correct, a larger rear sprocket.

Alas, I do know this my friend. I usually give it gas as I progressively let out the clutch. So your telling me if I want to give it a little umph with a friend next to me on his bike.... I HAVE to rev it high and slip the clutch to actually get a good take off? Am I just spoiled with a V-twin? I raised the idle a notch and that helped a smidgen. I just figured the bike was meant to have air rushing into the intake and at a stand still its like trying to spool up a turbo.



But back to the original topic....

What are the Pros and Cons with Reflash vs Power Commander?