Stunt motorcyclists blamed in serious accident

[Awesome]

Originally posted by Brian_C6
good point but that motorcycle could just as easily been a car switching lanes or accidently swarving over. In which case, it would be considered a "typical" situation. But, because a wheelie is out of the norm, it's considered "flat out" the main cause.

Brian

It also could have been a deer running across the road, but it wasn't.

[nefarious]

Originally posted by benVFR
Hahah.. FTrain you got your asbestos suit on?

Nefarious... I'm not a big fan of stunting either... but why are you so eager to bust on other riders and defend the snoozing cagers who try to kill you every day? There are multiple sides to every story. I doubt this person in the SUV was doing the speed limit paying attention to their surroundings, and had a lot of driver training. There is fault to go around everywhere. Not to mention driving that big of a vehicle with that many passengers without making them wear seatbelts.

Yep, the stunting sounds like the wrong place at the wrong time. But there has been no accountability for car drivers for so long the bar just keeps getting lowered. And it is so easy to blame the motorcyclists as the fringe element.

Ben

because of people like you that ride bikes... that act like they never get in a car because cages are for cagers, and are guilty of all the same things. face it you are the person in the car but because you also ride a bike you want to elavate yourself from non bikers, not cagers...

[nefarious]

Originally posted by hessogood
It also could have been a deer running across the road, but it wasn't.

yup and if it was a dear, there would be no question or drama.
the dear has and excuess though.. how about the stunter?

[bigred875]

Originally posted by nefarious
because of people like you that ride bikes... that act like they never get in a car because cages are for cagers, and are guilty of all the same things. face it you are the person on the car but because you also ride a bike you want to elavate yourself from non bikers not cagers...

get off this and get over yourself....

The only reason this is even an issue is because there were stunters on the highway....peopl in SUV's die everyday because of their inept driving ablilites...and in this one incident you are gonna jump on the stunnas...

I agree...they were wrong..but that does not change that fact that she swerved in to another car because she was not aware of her surroundings....

[nefarious]

Originally posted by bigred875
get off this and get over yourself....

The only reason this is even an issue is because there were stunters on the highway....peopl in SUV's die everyday because of their inept driving ablilites...and in this one incident you are gonna jump on the stunnas...

I agree...they were wrong..but that does not change that fact that she swerved in to another car because she was not aware of her surroundings....

no she swerved because she was abrubtly made aware of a new threat

[Brian_C6]

Answer me this...

Two car accident. 17yr old and 40yr old. 17yr old ran a red light (new to driving and wasn't paying attention) and t-boned the 40yr old. Just so happens the 40yr old is driving home from a local bar. Police arrive to the scene and smell alcohol on the old man. The breathalizer shows a .12 alcohol reading.

Who's at fault?

Brian

[elaineo]

Originally posted by ftrain
I find it fun to scare the crap out of soccer mom's on the highway. One time I was going down 95 and a soccer mom was all over the road talking on her cell phone. I pulled up to her window and kicked off her side view mirror. She got scared and jerked the wheel. The babies head in the back seat banged against the window rom the jerk. It was so funny. I mean I never seen a babies head hit the side window so hard. I was laughing the entire way home.

i just want to say that this post made me bust up laughing for about 5 minutes in my cubicle. thanks ftrain.

[nefarious]

Originally posted by Brian_C6
Answer me this...

Two car accident. 17yr old and 40yr old. 17yr old ran a red light (new to driving and wasn't paying attention) and t-boned the 40yr old. Just so happens the 40yr old is driving home from a local bar. Police arrive to the scene and smell alcohol on the old man. The breathalizer shows a .12 alcohol reading.

Who's at fault?

Brian

old man is guilty for driving drunk

kid is guilty of causing the accident.. if it wasnt the old drunk it was the next car coming through th green light

[Brian_C6]

Originally posted by nefarious
old man is guilty for driving drunk

kid is guilty of causing the accident.. if it wasnt the old drunk it was the next car coming through th green light

so 50/50 on the accident report?

[Awesome]

Originally posted by Brian_C6
Answer me this...

Two car accident. 17yr old and 40yr old. 17yr old ran a red light (new to driving and wasn't paying attention) and t-boned the 40yr old. Just so happens the 40yr old is driving home from a local bar. Police arrive to the scene and smell alcohol on the old man. The breathalizer shows a .12 alcohol reading.

Who's at fault?

Brian

The drunk is at fault by law. Doesn't this argue against the point you've been making in the thread?

[bigred875]

the drunk...he should not have been on the road

[ftrain]

Dude, I am drunk!

hahaha it was so funny man that baby head just smacked off that glass.

I think I even saw baby formula comming out of the babies nose.

[MissTwisties]

!@#$%$%^&*@%#$$@ !!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by ftrain
Dude, I am drunk!

hahaha it was so funny man that baby head just smacked off that glass.

I think I even saw baby formula comming out of the babies nose.

[SSearchVT]

They are both guilty.. The 17 year old is guilty for running a red light, accident resulting, and the 40 yr old is guilty of DUI (DWI).

[bentbryan]

wheelies are cool.

[LM954RR]

Who gives a flying fuck....??

Accidents happen all the fucking time..and rarely are caused by motorcyclists.
You don't see major drama when some fucking dipshit causes an accident, because they were too busy talking on their cell phone, to navigate a friggen car, and hits someone...do you?

Or when some fat bitch drives 15 noisy little basterds to a friggen soccer game in a minivan, and runs someone over because she couldn't concentrate over all the noise.

So fucking what if a motorcycle swerved infront of someone....It's called "Failure to maintain proper control of a motor vehicle".......The bike didn't hit her did it?

Now...If you're driving a car down I95 S and someone next to you swerves in front of you...you panic and slamm into the suburban (full of nitwitts with no seatbelts) next to you....It would be your fault, because, it's your job to maintain control of your own vehicle, and the swerving car, didn't actually hit you and cause you to move out of your lane of travel.
. But!~ because it was a group of motorcyclists...It has to be sensationalized....and all of you ney sayers...are just the audience the media is playing for.

If you would have hit another car just because someone cut in front of you (even by an inch)...please..do the rest of us a favor, and turn your non driving, licenses in immediately. Because....That is a prime example of your own inability to maintain control under unusual circumstances.

[Zorlock]

It only takes a few of these fu#&tards to ruin it for the rest of us. Because a few are brain dead ass-clowns, we are now ALL brain dead ass-clowns.

It really makes me sick to be forcibly associated with these inbreds.

[Brian_C6]

Originally posted by LM954RR
Who gives a flying fuck....??

Accidents happen all the fucking time..and rarely are caused by motorcyclists.
You don't see major drama when some fucking dipshit causes an accident, because they were too busy talking on their cell phone, to navigate a friggen car, and hits someone...do you?

Or when some fat bitch drives 15 noisy little basterds to a friggen soccer game in a minivan, and runs someone over because she couldn't concentrate over all the noise.

So fucking what if a motorcycle swerved infront of someone....It's called "Failure to maintain proper control of a motor vehicle".......The bike didn't hit her did it?

Now...If you're driving a car down I95 S and someone next to you swerves in front of you...you panic and slamm into the suburban (full of nitwitts with no seatbelts) next to you....It would be your fault, because, it's your job to maintain control of your own vehicle, and the swerving car, didn't actually hit you and cause you to move out of your lane of travel.
. But!~ because it was a group of motorcyclists...It has to be sensationalized....and all of you ney sayers...are just the audience the media is playing for.

If you would have hit another car just because someone cut in front of you (even by an inch)...please..do the rest of us a favor, and turn your non driving, licenses in immediately. Because....That is a prime example of your own inability to maintain control under unusual circumstances.

BRAVO!!! Well said. Good Point!!

[highsider]

Originally posted by LM954RR
Who gives a flying fuck....??

Accidents happen all the fucking time..and rarely are caused by motorcyclists.
You don't see major drama when some fucking dipshit causes an accident, because they were too busy talking on their cell phone, to navigate a friggen car, and hits someone...do you?

Or when some fat bitch drives 15 noisy little basterds to a friggen soccer game in a minivan, and runs someone over because she couldn't concentrate over all the noise.

So fucking what if a motorcycle swerved infront of someone....It's called "Failure to maintain proper control of a motor vehicle".......The bike didn't hit her did it?

Now...If you're driving a car down I95 S and someone next to you swerves in front of you...you panic and slamm into the suburban (full of nitwitts with no seatbelts) next to you....It would be your fault, because, it's your job to maintain control of your own vehicle, and the swerving car, didn't actually hit you and cause you to move out of your lane of travel.
. But!~ because it was a group of motorcyclists...It has to be sensationalized....and all of you ney sayers...are just the audience the media is playing for.

If you would have hit another car just because someone cut in front of you (even by an inch)...please..do the rest of us a favor, and turn your non driving, licenses in immediately. Because....That is a prime example of your own inability to maintain control under unusual circumstances.

For the most part, I would have to agree with you. Unfortunately, IMO, the problem is that we have no real driver training in this country - anyone that can do a bunch of stupid circus tricks with a car at low speeds during their license test can get a license.

The fact is, most European countries have a much more intensive driver training program. I dont have any facts to back this up, but I am told that they have a much lower rate of accidents per capita. If the woman in the instant case had understood something about handling her vehicle at 80 MPH, the entire situation could probably have been avoided.

In any case, I don't see much point in arguing over whether speeding or wheelies are more dangerous, because we all know that they both have some factor of danger associated with them. Both have their place in the sport of motorcycling, and that place is, IMO, nowhere near rush hour traffic on major highways.

Just my opinion

[Zorlock]

Originally posted by LM954RR
Who gives a flying fuck....??

Or when some fat bitch drives 15 noisy little basterds to a friggen soccer game in a minivan, and runs someone over because she couldn't concentrate over all the noise.

So fucking what if a motorcycle swerved infront of someone....It's called "Failure to maintain proper control of a motor vehicle".......The bike didn't hit her did it?

Fuckin', fuckin', fuckin' fuckin'...ok, now that I've reached that quota, I'll make my point.

Your opinion on this seems to be very self serving and you obviously hold an opposing opinion to most law abiding riders on this incident. It is actually "driving to endanger" in this circumstance and "failure to drive right" among MANY other charges for sure. I'm sure the SUV driver was underqualifed in many ways as well, but the actions of the motorcyclist are the nucleus of the whole thing, period. Bottom line, the retard(s) on the motorcycle(s) who was/were pulling stunts in heavy traffic started the chain of events. Too bad she didn't flatten them into road pizza instead, would've put that soiled gene pool on indefinite hold and left less nimrods on the road to give us all a bad name.

[hooligan]

maybe i read the articles wrong, but it sounded to me like the group was stunting and then the leaders decided to take an exit and back group didnt realize it in time and had to swerve to make the exit. if i read it write, it sounds like the lead bikes took the exit, and the pack in back including the "chase car" had to swerve to make the exit. i thought it was when they swerved to take the exit, the chase car cut off the explore. the explore then swerved into the suburban to avoid the car and caused the resulting accident.

in any case, i wasnt there, but what does the fact that they were stunting have to do with the accident? it sounds like someone didnt want to miss the exit and swerved across traffic to make it, cutting people off instead of going to the next exit and turning around.

I agree with LM954RR, i think the fact that stunting is included in these news articles is to sensationalize it. Just as it sells videos, it sells newspapers and ratings.....

[LM954RR]

It is actually "driving to endanger" in this circumstance and "failure to drive right" among MANY other charges for sure.

No....I was referring to the woman in the SUV, who actually paniced and caused an accident.
The motorcyclists,( had they been cought in the act,) would be charged with "laned roadway violations", "Wreckless driving", "Driving to endanger" "speeding", "Failure to maintain proper control".

The "failure to maintain control of a motor vehicle", would be in referace to the SUV driver.....Because she came in contact with another vehicle, and caused a collision. Not due to an outside force [in this case a motorcycle] which didn't hit her and cause her to lose control.

Fuck, fuck fuckity fuck!