If you have been down at a trackday, and covered by Mass. insurance...

[The Snowman]

SAME BIKE, SAME RIDER, SAME TIRES, SAME PAVEMENT... Other than the fact that there's no sand, no potholes, no traffic, no animals, no intersections, etc, it's not different than the street at all.

Who says there are no animals at the track?

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[OreoGaborio]

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Yes doc, we get why the track is a holy being and should be worshiped as such. fuck.



The point is that whether people are 'supposed to' or not, they are pushing their limits. People aren't supposed to drive too fast in the snow, drive drunk, etc but they do and insurance coverage is priced and written accordingly. The same should go for the track.

Yes, because the number of people who make track day crash claims VASTLY outnumbers the number of people who make street crash claims...



Jackie, you don't seriously think track day riders are the reason your rates are "so high" do you?

[Doc]

Yes doc, we get why the track is a holy being and should be worshiped as such. fuck.

The point is that whether people are 'supposed to' or not, they are pushing their limits. People aren't supposed to drive too fast in the snow, drive drunk, etc but they do and insurance coverage is priced and written accordingly. The same should go for the track.

You should worship more often.

The point is... Who's at fault when you crash?

[WordTooYoMamma]

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SAME BIKE, SAME RIDER, SAME TIRES, SAME PAVEMENT... Other than the fact that there's no sand, no potholes, no traffic, no animals, no intersections, etc, it's not different than the street at all.

Who says there are no animals at the track?

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There was a turtle on the track twice that day, and yes if i hit the turtle I would have made a claim. I went to the track based off of someone that i know whos opinion I respect. I was told I will learn more in one day then a whole year of street riding.

Did I go to the bomo days thinking I would be the next rossi? NO

Did I go expecting to put a big smile on my face, have some fun, learn a ton about riding my bike, and ride a little faster then on the street? YES

I feel that what DOC said earlier sums it up. I would be a poorer rider for not attending a trackday or two. I honestly can say i feel like after the two trackdays I did this year, I have a big leg up on the street then others that havent been, in ALL aspects. Theres only so much you can practice on the street in terms of surviving on the street.

I tell you what theres nothing like coming into 3 way way way too hott and having to stand it up and brake before you hit a wall. Or coming to the end of the straight and having someone a bit faster merge in front of you going into one. Or being blind behind you and sort of having to get a feel of your surroundings besides what you can see directly in front of you. And oh yea since I know what it feels like to hit the ground, the importance of gear.

I got exactly what I was looking to get out of a trackday even with crashing. Me and my bike are 1 living breathing thing on the street and off. All of the examples of things above can be easily put into street riding...Emergency stops, some asshole merging on top of you, or turning in front of you. For someone to put a classification on going to the track to just "push your limits" is idiotic. I am sure there are plently of people like me that apply knowledge learned from one experiance to all aspects of life.

[MysteriousR1]

Damn, this Loudon must have a vagina somewhere that I didnt find.

[OreoGaborio]

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Your right, I take back the animals thing. I had to clean up a groundhog with Graham in turn 7.

[Chippertheripper]

You were the turtle.

[Pittenger5]

Damn, this Loudon must have a vagina somewhere that I didnt find.

You can honestly say that doing a track day didnt make you a better rider?

Id honestly like to meet anyone that could claim that. Except Jim. He sucks all around.

[MysteriousR1]

You can honestly say that doing a track day didnt make you a better rider?

Id honestly like to meet anyone that could claim that. Except Jim. He sucks all around.

No, no. Definatly think it made me a better rider. My comment was to the comical passion on this topic. Im still looking for my scientific facts...

[Garandman]

Uh... if you owe money on a bike and take it to the track without insurance coverage and total it... you're stuck with a bike payment and no bike.

IMHO, owing money on any bike in the first place is retarded. If you can't pay cash, don't buy it.

And the one word response is Gixxah!

[WordTooYoMamma]

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You were the turtle.

results probably would have been the same

[ThisBitch]

And the one word response is Gixxah!

Bingo. I think if you were forced to pay cash for a bike it would cut the rate of 18 year olds on GSX-R 1k's in half.

[Jim]

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And the one word response is Gixxah!

Bingo. I think if you were forced to pay cash for a bike it would cut the rate of 18 year olds on GSX-R 1k's in half.

How much more are the 1000's than the 600's?

[WordTooYoMamma]

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And the one word response is Gixxah!

Bingo. I think if you were forced to pay cash for a bike it would cut the rate of 18 year olds on GSX-R 1k's in half.

How much more are the 1000's than the 600's?

the new ones? like 1500-2000 more. What the hell does the even mean jackie? You are talking about new vs old here. If I was forced to pay cash for a bike, it no doubt would have been an older version of what I have now.

[ThisBitch]

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the new ones? like 1500-2000 more. What the hell does the even mean jackie? You are talking about new vs old here. If I was forced to pay cash for a bike, it no doubt would have been an older version of what I have now.

I'm fairly certain I didn't call you out, nor was I talking to and/or about you. Unbunch your panties.

I was referring to the ignorant parents who take their 18 year old who just got a learner's permit and cosign for them to buy a brand new GSX-R 1000. How many 18 year olds do you know with $1000 in the bank? How about $8000? I don't know many.

[FireboltEric_MA]

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I got exactly what I was looking to get out of a trackday even with crashing. Me and my bike are 1 living breathing thing on the street and off.

Your Welcome

[Degsy]

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I got exactly what I was looking to get out of a trackday even with crashing. Me and my bike are 1 living breathing thing on the street and off.

Your Welcome

I lol'ed.

[xrocket21]

I'm fairly certain I didn't call you out, nor was I talking to and/or about you. Unbunch your panties.

I was referring to the ignorant parents who take their 18 year old who just got a learner's permit and cosign for them to buy a brand new GSX-R 1000. How many 18 year olds do you know with $1000 in the bank? How about $8000? I don't know many.

my first bike was a 900rr and I loved it

the only time I have been down is at the track

your point is invalid

[WordTooYoMamma]

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Due to my notorized afadavit stating my verbal contract with my insurance agent existed, I am COVERED!!.Big thanks to all those(possibly 3 people???) that supported my decision to not bend over and take it.

Sorry about your rates jackie.

[Jim]

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Glad everything worked out for you

[ThisBitch]

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Due to my notorized afadavit stating my verbal contract with my insurance agent existed, I am COVERED!!.Big thanks to all those(possibly 3 people???) that supported my decision to not bend over and take it.

Sorry about your rates jackie.

Don't worry, you'll be receiving your bill for the portion I believe to be directly attributable to your claim.