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I ended up in a unique position this spring with 2 old friends weddings 2 weeks apart on the west coast.
June 9th in Whistler, BC and June 23rd in LA. After some hard thought I decided to make a trip out of them. Packing out for 17 days!
So far I am flying into Seattle on Thursday June 6th and my bike will ship to Ride West BMW in Seattle.
Now to figure out the rest.....
For full disclosure the longest trip I have ever done on a motorcycle before is 2 days.....
Discuss.
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I'm a little jealous too. Having been to some of those areas for work and being stuck in a rental car is quite torturous.
"...i would seriously bite somebody right in the balls..." -bump909
What to do first......hmmm....its hard to plan a moto trip when there is snow falling outside....
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glendora mountain road!
angels crest highway!
mulholland drive/the snake/malibu!
but why stop at LA? take ortega, head down to palomar...and heck, hit every other canyon road around that area
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I wish I could tag along....sounds fun.
That sounds awesome. If you take picts, please post them.
Holy crap.
How long will a knish stay fresh? Make sure you find a good hill to coast down on the sabbath...wouldn't want to lose an entire day of travel.
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I think he can coast...but not use the brakes. On a bike, he couldn't pedal...but if gravity pulled it down the hill, he'd be ok. Of course, I may not be interpreting the midrash correctly. Maybe if he started rolling just before shabbat hit, he'd be ok (again, assuming no brakes)
Manny??
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Humm, some interesting facets and intricacies of Halacha being discussed Scott. Do you want to consult with Dan and get a third point of view prior to my rendering a psak to this fascinating kasha?
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I have consulted Rabbi Dan...awaiting a response. Until then, I suspect that you can ride (definitely coast) as long as you are within an Eruv. Good luck with that. Notwithstanding the commentary below (around bicycles), if you are not exerting force and gravity is carrying you down the hill as shabbos begins, then I don't see that it should be prohibited:
There are several issues that poskim have with a bicycle on Shabbat:
•Carrying/transferring in a public domain. (The bike is not considered part of the rider.)
•The bicycle may break, causing the rider to perhaps forget himself and fix it.
•Riding a bike is uvdin d'chol (weekday activity), and not appropriate on Shabbat.
•One might ride over soft soil, thereby transgressing the biblical prohibition against plowing. (Though the transgression in this case, I think would be Rabbinic.)
•A bicycle is muktza, as its primary use is for riding in public domains, which is generally hotza'ah (carrying), thus it is a kli shem'lachto l'issur (utensil that is designed primarily for a prohibited use).
•Even in a walled city, or one with an acceptable eruv, one may inadvertently ride outside of the eruv, or even outside of the t'chum shabbat.
For one or more of these reasons, many contemporary poskim prohibit riding a bicycle on Shabbat, though there have been those that have permitted it. As Joshua Lee linked in the comments, see here for a short discussion.
You implied in your question that perhaps riding a bike would be permitted with the understanding of the reason behind it being potentially prohibited, such as with the understanding that one may not ride over soft soil, or with the understanding that repairs may not be done. In general, the knowledge behind the reasoning of a rabbinic prohibition does not entitle one to transgress it. For example, the Sages felt it was necessary to forbid dancing on Shabbat, lest one come to bring musical accompaniment and further come to fix the instrument(s) if they break. This holds even if one understands that it is forbidden to fix instruments on Shabbat. We are still worried he may come to transgress a biblical prohibition.
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Northern California. Pashnit.com Nahcimento Rd. Rte 1.
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Common folks....need some practical info here. How many pairs of unddies for example?
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One pair of these might be a great idea. They are fully padded in rear only and not like bicycle shorts with the crotch only.
http://www.lipowear.com/index.php/recreational
Pricey but could prove to be worth it
Klim makes nice riding shorts (underwear). Heck just go to AEROSTITCH website.