V-Twins Vs, Inline 4's

[OreoGaborio]

Originally posted by SVRACER01
my G/F bike goes 80+ MPH in 1st!! thats at least 30mph OVER the speed limit on the highway.

wait... so 80-65 = 30

ok thanks, just wanted to get that straight

[union]

Originally posted by ZX-12R
Underwelmed by a ZX-14? Are you sure all the plug wires were installed? Power wise the 14 is in an entirely different league then the RC-51 so I'm not sure how it was underwelming.

Maybe you should check out an SV650. I've seen one that consistently beat an RC-51 up at New England Dragway

With all the hype the bike got I guess I was expecting more out of it. Ill agree its a faster and more powerful bike then my rc51. Hell even the newer 600s have passed the rc in power now. But for a bike that has been so hyped up with its power and speed I was a bit disappointed with it. I dont even want to go into the crappy job Kawasaki did with the fit and finish of the bike. I dont care for the styling but the entire tail section is very flimsy and very bulky if you have to remove it.

[jwm2k3]

Originally posted by Half Squid


In My mind TWINS RULE!!!
BUT NOTHING BEATS THE SOUND OF A GOOD TWIN WITH NICE PIPES!

AGREED.

[benVFR]

Re: ZX-14 being underwhelming.

Any bike with any amount of HP can be underwhelming if the rider is not a power-monger.

If the only reason you like your current bike is it's very high HP output of course you're going to love the ZX-14.

For everyone else who doesn't think peak HP is the #1 most important thing other aspects are going to be more important...

And that is why the vast majority of people don't prefer the highest HP I-4 motorcycles. Consider all bikes... people buying the 1000cc I-4 superbikes, busa, ZX-14, etc.. are a pretty small percentage of the market. V-twins are by far the most popular when you look at all bikes.

[R-S-V]

Originally posted by RSVMILLE661
My Mille' was a fantastic ride and thanks to the help of Peter Kates and Mike Marterie, it was fairly well sorted when I sold it. I am now saving my pennies for a new (04 or later) Mille' to set up again.

Now we're talking Aprilias are awesome

Here's a little something to make you save those pennies a bit faster:



New tires and chain, fluids and filters changed, all cleaned up and ready to roll

[mikeb]

Originally posted by jwm2k3
AGREED.

i disagree. the vfr v4 sounds better than any bike i have ever heard with the right pipes. imo


this thread is funny in the fact that most feel that what ever they ride is the best regardless of facts.

i find my inline is ALOT of fun but i'd love a mille and a speed triple.

[jwm2k3]

Originally posted by mikeb



this thread is funny in the fact that most feel that what ever they ride is the best regardless of facts.

I noticed that too. I have had both. I truly feel that I did move forward into the V-Twin sportbike, as opposed to another in-line sportbike. Is my particular V-Twin sportbike the best? Nope. Its the best I could afford for a V-Twin sportbike. The Pasta V -Twins are my first choice, but this time around it had to be rice V-Twin.

[odduc]

While I love my Ducati, it does feel a bit underpowered whenever I go from that to my FZR1000. Despite the fact that the FZR is 10 years older than the Duc. Of course, I am giving 250cc of displacement going from one to another. 748cc V-twin vs. 1002cc I-4.
However, the chassis of the Ducati is the best I have ever experienced. I'm sure that I might change my tune if I had the 998cc V-twin.
I will say that the V-twin does sound really cool !!!!!!!!!
Bottom line is, these high performance machines are so good that us mortals could never push them to their limits and whether you prefer a V-twin, I-4, 3 cylinder or parrallel twin, it's all good.

[SVRACER01]

Originally posted by OreoGitorio
wait... so 80-65 = 30

ok thanks, just wanted to get that straight

the speed limit up here is 55 dufus so i guess 25 over would be correct. and actually the section of highway right outside my door is 50mph

oh.. and i said 80+... it does about 85 at the rev limiter

[old timer]

Originally posted by union
[B]I like my twin. However my next bike will probably be an I4 600 class.

Hey Pussyboy...you might NOT want that getting back to ROGUE...

Might lose your priviledges...

[dave72370]

So I ride a 2006 cbr1000 and my brother bought an '06 rc51 and in a conversation with him I asked what was the difference. Now I have always ridden dirtbike in the past. He said a I-4 is like a 2 stroke and a v-twin is like a 4 stroke. After I rode his RC, I agreed with his analogy. Do you 2 stroke riders agree with the analogy??

[OreoGaborio]

Originally posted by SVRACER01
the speed limit up here is 55 dufus so i guess 25 over would be correct. and actually the section of highway right outside my door is 50mph

oh.. and i said 80+... it does about 85 at the rev limiter

sure, sure... NOW you change your tune

[union]

Originally posted by old timer
Hey Pussyboy...you might NOT want that getting back to ROGUE...

Might lose your priviledges...

hahah I bet they would be impressed if I showed up with a 600 next event I make it to. Besides they cant do anything. Afterall Mike apparently has a myspace account so I think Im in the clear

[Kham]

vtwin instant torq at low rpm but HP gets you to max torq even quicker if you're not afraid of higher rpm. the thrill of turbo engine. i can ride zx10 in 1st gear but who needs max torq all the time? take the new R6 for instant. nothing happen in the middle then all of a sudden bam! like a bullet.

[RandyO]

Originally posted by Kham
vtwin instant torq at low rpm but HP gets you to max torq even quicker if you're not afraid of higher rpm. the thrill of turbo engine. i can ride zx10 in 1st gear but who needs max torq all the time? take the new R6 for instant. nothing happen in the middle then all of a sudden bam! like a bullet.

do you have diarrea

[ZX-12R]

Originally posted by RandyO
do you have diarrea

You're going to get me in trouble at work for laughing out loud!

[jwm2k3]

Originally posted by union
Mike apparently has a myspace account

I knew he was

[Kham]

Originally posted by RandyO
do you have diarrea

not yet but any minute.

did i say something about the HP?

[ancosta]

Originally posted by Kham
not yet but any minute.

did i say something about the HP?

This presumes the time is set OK on the I4

[Kham]

alright alright... im straight on the power, torq, etc. people just like different tune and im sticking with I4 tune. you don't know what you like but you like what you know. i heard that somewhere.

[duey]

jap I4 is like a turbo'd 4cyl car, not much at lower rpm's but as soon as the turbo spools what out.

L or V twins have low end grunt like some v8's, tq down low and not a whole lot up top.

either way we're all on 2 wheels so IMO who cares what it is?

[Kham]

Originally posted by duey
jap I4 is like a turbo'd 4cyl car, not much at lower rpm's but as soon as the turbo spools what out.

L or V twins have low end grunt like some v8's, tq down low and not a whole lot up top.

either way we're all on 2 wheels so IMO who cares what it is?

if you think like this you're gonna have a diarrea like me.

[Honclfibr]

Cylinders and configuration is nothing, it's all about bore x stroke. Bore = top end power, stroke = low end torque. It's just that engines with fewer cylinders end up with larger strokes to keep the piston velocity down. The whole twin vs four thing is a straw man, more cylinders is more better.

[duey]

Originally posted by Kham
if you think like this you're gonna have a diarrea like me.

too late

[RandyO]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
Cylinders and configuration is nothing, it's all about bore x stroke. Bore = top end power, stroke = low end torque. It's just that engines with fewer cylinders end up with larger strokes to keep the piston velocity down. The whole twin vs four thing is a straw man, more cylinders is more better.

you have diarrea of the mouth too

longer stroke = higher piston velocity

torque and power curves are more determined by valve lift & duration

inline 4s can be tuned for low end power or peak power same as twins

TLS is tuned for more low end, TLR is tuned for more peak, both same basic engine different cams
919 is tuned for low end, cbr900rr is tuned for peak, again same basic engine, different cams