Be sure and wave to the camera so you look good for the crash

**aldend123** · 10-18-12, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by DucDave

Is it just me or to the pics from 19 on look 'shopped'? right up through 18 there was a very short interval between shots. There seems to be a gap between 18 and 19.

Still, couldn't be a good day for that chap!

I think what you're seeing that makes it look altered is the compression from heavy lossy compression used with his "low resolution proofs" (while not said, it is certainly obvious to me they are compressed as well as low-res). Thats a major reason why the depth is lost and he looks like someone stamped him there.

**jcbell1007** · 10-18-12, 09:58 PM

If you look carefully, it seems like the corvette drivers expression doesn't change at all.

**caddydaddy** · 10-18-12, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by Half Squid

Why are there no skid marks, did this guy try using his brakes at all? Only skid mark I see is from another incedent, they are certainly not from him braking..

The Triumph Thunderbird can be ABS equipped....but that won't save you if you still don't know how to ride! He didn't fishtail or low-side, so maybe that one does have the ABS.

**brady** · 10-19-12, 05:01 AM

No brake light until pic 15?

**nhbubba** · 10-19-12, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by Evadd

That's interesting. You can actually see the moment where he panics, grabs the brakes and starts to go upright (pic 11).

I agree with this.

The upside is the LEOs should have no trouble figuring out who was at fault here.

I hope the 'vette guy either gets a really good settlement.

**nhbubba** · 10-19-12, 06:57 AM

Originally Posted by brady

No brake light until pic 15?

I think it's the angle. The photographer is off-angle until about then. Once he's nearly down the axis of the motorcycle he gets the reflector full on. Before that it is just peripheral off the lens. I think the brakes were on well before that. Probably at or about shot 11 as Evadd pointed out.

Meh. Look at me being an arm chair traffic cop.

**tls25rs** · 10-19-12, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by jasnmar

In most cases professional photographers have insurance for exactly this type of thing. Same thing is true for Drs, Architects, Engineers and another of other professions. The insurers will certainly help with these sorts of cases so it is rarely on the photographer alone.

Though I agree with you fully on this I'm not so sure the people that are making a couple of extra bucks shooting photos on the side of US129 treat this as a profession. I may be 100% off base on this but I think it started with Killboy and a small website and then a few others figured they would get in on the game as well. Hopefully they are "protected" from this type of thing.

Regardless of my random comments on this the end result is that it sucks for all involved. Hopefully the rider is relatively ok and all of them get taken care of in some way so they are not finacially damaged too badly by this accident.

Joel

**DucDave** · 10-19-12, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by aldend123

I think what you're seeing that makes it look altered is the compression from heavy lossy compression used with his "low resolution proofs" (while not said, it is certainly obvious to me they are compressed as well as low-res). Thats a major reason why the depth is lost and he looks like someone stamped him there.

Thanks...both for the explanation and for perfectly describing what I was talking about!!!

**AVI8_636** · 10-19-12, 07:43 AM

Wow that was nuts!! I'd be pissed if I was in the vette!

**snwbrdr435** · 10-19-12, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by nhbubba

That's a helluva lot of 'shop work. And why 'shop something that seems to happen all the damned time down there?

On my camera the thing will run out of internal buffer after xxx shots and then slow down as the flash card tries to catch up. As buffer space frees up it will start taking photos again. I don't have a clue what happened. But I suggest it's possible the shooters camera did like mine and he filled his buffer and missed a bit of the action because of it.

Need some faster cards!!!

Poor vette didn't see that one coming!

**jayth** · 10-19-12, 08:32 AM

Fuck....this gets worse check out post 27

http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/sho...=124800&page=2

**snwbrdr435** · 10-19-12, 08:35 AM

To help clarify this.. it was on the gap. mm 4.2, and the rider left in an ambulance, though it didn't appear his injuries were serious. The wreck left a huge mess on the road with Oil, Fork oil, and antifreeze.

About an hour after this, a local rider got caught in it and went off the mountain into a tree hard.. He's in ICU and will be for some time.

So here's a reason not to lose track of where you are and what you're doing: This guy lost awareness of his surroundings, didn't know the capabilities of his bike, didn't look where he needed to go and recover (even with the Vette giving him extra room), and target fixated on the Vette, and was lucky he just totaled the bike, did heavy damage to the Vette, and left conscious and alive..
On the other hand, the aftermath of his mistakes contributed to nearly killing another rider, and certainly impacted his quality of life and his family for a long time to come.

Sorry if I sound a little bitter, but it is what it is.. if mister over his head hadn't been, I wouldn't be looking for reports to see if Jeff will even know his name again. It wasn't all his fault, bhut had he not made this error, the problem wouldn't have been there for the other rider.

Well that sucks

**Evadd** · 10-19-12, 09:02 AM

Yeah, it really does. I hope the 2nd rider pulls through ok.

**WordTooYoMamma** · 10-19-12, 09:04 AM

I posted the pics on the Corvette forum. Someone said the Corvette driver is a member.
But since that car was a 5th generation, he posts in a different section as I do.

He apparently mentioned that the bike rider faired well. An arm injury is the worst he got.
Lucky.

I am glad we are not this snooty... Although I think Kenn would have fun with it....

...He doesn't have as many Triumphs as I do so he posts with the normies...

**jwm2k3** · 10-19-12, 10:29 AM

I dont love Vettes, Triumphs or fucktards who cant turn a motorcycle...so meh on these photos...

**B440** · 10-19-12, 11:38 AM

Looks like he's riding an invisible airbike in pic 19

**jasnmar** · 10-19-12, 12:50 PM

2nd riders status...

Fractured skull around orbital area
Missing top 4 teeth
Lip split up to nose
Broken neck
Broken back (again)
2 collapsed lungs
Multiple ribs broken on both sides
Lacerated liver
Busted up kidney
Heaving bruising on right side

He is responsive only by movement of hands and a slight head nod. Thanks for all your thought and prayers!

Source... His son in http://www.easttnriders.com/forum/sh...t=41945&page=2

**aldend123** · 10-19-12, 01:51 PM

There's something slightly interesting about that poster (the son) having the account name Soon2bfast, and that being his first and only (so far) post.

**jayth** · 10-19-12, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by aldend123

There's something slightly interesting about that poster (the son) having the account name Soon2bfast, and that being his first and only (so far) post.

His Dad's user name is "usedtobefast".....hope he pulls through

**jasnmar** · 10-19-12, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by aldend123

There's something slightly interesting about that poster (the son) having the account name Soon2bfast, and that being his first and only (so far) post.

Yea, I was skeptical as well, but then I saw one of the other guys post

A messege from his wife, Mel

Jeff is now stable but still in critical condition. Injuries he has sustained include fractured skull at frontal lobe and orbital area, missing four front teeth with torn lip, facial reconstruction in the future, broken C1,C2,T3,L2,L3 and L4, broken ribs on both sides and collapsed lungs with lacerations to liver and kidney. Thank you for all your love, prayers, and support.

Which matched "well enough" for me to presume truth (it doesn't prove it, it just makes it believable enough for me).

It seems the injured riders username is "usedtobefast", so the son's would make sense.

**Degsy** · 10-19-12, 03:04 PM

Wirelessly posted

Like I said. Moron.

**pontifex** · 10-19-12, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by nhbubba

On my camera the thing will run out of internal buffer after xxx shots and then slow down as the flash card tries to catch up. .

funny, my camera does the same thing after xxx shots

**SwiftTone** · 10-19-12, 04:28 PM

Picture 19: stop, duck and roll...wrong procedure here buddy.

**Chippertheripper** · 10-19-12, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by jwm2k3

I dont love Vettes, Triumphs or fucktards who cant turn a motorcycle...so meh on these photos...

That's good. Cuz I fucking hate ducatis....and the snootery that goes along with owning one.

**Degsy** · 10-19-12, 05:38 PM

Wirelessly posted

Originally Posted by Chippertheripper

Originally Posted by jwm2k3

I dont love Vettes, Triumphs or fucktards who cant turn a motorcycle...so meh on these photos...

That's good. Cuz I fucking hate ducatis....and the snootery that goes along with owning one.

Ah. That explains it. :-).

Be sure and wave to the camera so you look good for the crash

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