MSF Experienced Rider Course

**Jim** · 10-11-07, 02:13 PM

I was going to sign up for the experienced rider program as soon as there's one available near me.
has anyone taken this one, or just the beginner one?

**sxlova07** · 10-11-07, 02:14 PM

I took it a couple years ago at the beginning of the riding season and got some helpful tips

**Crash Dummy Denno** · 10-11-07, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by sxlova07

I took it a couple years ago at the beginning of the riding season and got some helpful tips

yeah now you ride great

**Jim** · 10-11-07, 02:16 PM

thanks. i dont need it for the license, but i figured the tips and the insurance discount would be helpful.
were you bored during the 8 hour class?
i hear hour bad the beginner 15 hour one is. i was planning on getting some friends to sign up with me

**Doc** · 10-11-07, 02:25 PM

I took the experienced rider course this past summer. It was a first for me (mandated by the military)
I went into it with an open mind even though I thought it was a waste of time.

I actually learned a few things and had a good time. It was worth it after all.

**sxlova07** · 10-11-07, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Smooth R6

yeah now you ride great

I swear...if I hear that you spoon with someone else its over

**Paul_E_D** · 10-11-07, 03:15 PM

Yeah, the course sucks dude, don't take it...

**Josephd14** · 10-11-07, 03:17 PM

Waste of time, I heard they don't even teach you how to wheelie a gixxah..

**Ken C** · 10-11-07, 03:19 PM

Well worth it for 85% of riders, as long as you are open to learning.

Also, not all instructors are equal. All will know how to teach the course, but some will offer more than the basic information to help you ride better.

**Karaya One** · 10-11-07, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Smooth R6

yeah now you ride great

POW!!!!

**Karaya One** · 10-11-07, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by DBConz

thanks. i dont need it for the license, but i figured the tips and the insurance discount would be helpful.
were you bored during the 8 hour class?
i hear hour bad the beginner 15 hour one is. i was planning on getting some friends to sign up with me

The BRC is a great course with the right instructors. I have a great time teaching it, and my students seem to enjoy it, too.

**Doc** · 10-11-07, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Josephd14

Waste of time, I heard they don't even teach you how to wheelie a gixxah..

But they do teach you how to endo/stoppie.

**markbvt** · 10-12-07, 08:10 AM

I took the ERC up here in Vermont. It was basically an extension of the skills one learns in the BRC, with most of the time spent on the course and very little in the classroom (or in my class's case, the picnic table adjacent to the parking lot). Since I ride almost every day, I found the class very elementary (but the low-speed maneuvering practice is valuable nevertheless), but there were a number of people in my class who really benefitted from it. Several of them had been riding for 20 years or more, but they'd never received formal training and either didn't ride much except for one week-long motorcycle vacation per year or whatever, or else they'd simply built up lots of bad habits. These guys needed the class pretty badly.

--mark

**Paul_E_D** · 10-12-07, 08:46 AM

It's interesting to hear different reactions to the course. I teach it. I have an expert level roadracing championship under my belt and 50K plus street miles. I always get something out of the class.

Doing the skills at low speed may make it seem elementary, but what it does is magnify errors that you are making at all speeds. They are just easier to see cause the bike wobbles etc. If you push for perfection on these pratices, it wil improve your technique, even at race pace in my experience.

**Jim** · 10-12-07, 09:32 AM

there's no ERC offered around here, from what i've seen. only a few classes and they're not anywhere close to me

**Jim** · 10-12-07, 10:53 AM

greg, do you have a link to the schedule in seekonk? i used to go to seekonk speedway when i was younger, so i know that's not too far away

**Jim** · 02-07-08, 06:57 PM

degsy and greg, including myself i have 4+ guys from my work that want to take an advanced MSF course when it can be offered

**OreoGaborio** · 02-07-08, 07:25 PM

are you gonna show up wearing matching outfits?

**Jim** · 02-07-08, 07:27 PM

nope. was told i need 5 or more in the group to get a class.

**OreoGaborio** · 02-07-08, 07:33 PM

You should show up wearing matching outfits

**Jim** · 02-07-08, 07:34 PM

rather put the mohawks on our helmets

**OreoGaborio** · 02-07-08, 07:45 PM

put em on your leathers, under the arms

**Jim** · 02-07-08, 07:47 PM

leathers? what the hell are leathers for? im a shorts and flip flop guy

**Currently** · 02-07-08, 08:04 PM

Ya forgot the wifebeaters, you dope! <smack back of the head>

The Corona ones are a touch of class, you know.

**wingerdor** · 02-08-08, 12:11 AM

Have you looked at taking the Total Control ARC. Cornering technique is the focus. Although it is in a parking at low speeds, to add to what Paul said, it takes more skill to keep the bike steady. We focus on throttle control, throttle/brake transitions, vision, line selection, managing fear, body position, suspension setup, left/right-right/left transitions, super tight u-turns. The classroom modules are key to the skill sets. Practicing skills is nothing without the understanding of why you are practicing. www.hvcc.edu/rider

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