Turn 12-12a

[Doc]

Ok so I figured we could discuss each turn in seperate threads... (No I am not gonna start a thread for every turn, if YOU have a question about a turn start a thread about one yourself )

My first question is:

Should you try and be to the right or the left of the "Turtle" in 12a?

[RyanNicholson]

should probably name your corners correctly

I believe technically its 11A and 12

[Kurlon]

Watching the fast guys come through 12 cornerworking, they seem to be to the left of it, riding that lil strip between the 'turtle' and the depression. I am not that precise yet.

[Doc]

should probably name your corners correctly

I believe technically its 11A and 12

Brain Fart?

[Doc]

Watching the fast guys come through 12 cornerworking, they seem to be to the left of it, riding that lil strip between the 'turtle' and the depression. I am not that precise yet.

I was pretty much hitting it every lap... gotta work on getting insdie it then.

[a13x]

Penguin School refers to it as 12 and 12A

Personally I'm always to the left of the turtle, I've tried the right but leftside works better for me.

[Doc]

Penguin School refers to it as 12 and 12A

I knew I had heard it somewhere!!!

[seth399]

I experimented with foot out through there and turned in quicker than expected and slammed my foot/heal on the curb...glad I didn't break my foot

[RyanNicholson]

Penguin School refers to it as 12 and 12A

haha really? no kiddin... I've always known it as 11A and 12

[Speed Demon 828]

O.K. I gotta ask. What and where is the turtle?

[Pittenger5]

O.K. I gotta ask. What and where is the turtle?

The little bump that kinda looks like a turtle.


PS. your exhaust is the hottest fucking thing Ive ever felt in my life.

[nt650hawk]

Penguin School refers to it as 12 and 12A

I’m with Penguin as it is a right turn then a left turn.

Left / Over / Right of the turtle. Just be loose on the bars and weight that outside peg.

This all starts back at your right turn in 11.

If I’m slow mph it is to the right and I bend the bike around the bump.

If I’m fast it is to the left. By going thru there faster time is shorter to quickly flip the bike around + the speed tends to push you out further to the left setting you to the left of it.

You should attend TTD Graham goes over T11-12 in detail.

[Doc]

O.K. I gotta ask. What and where is the turtle?

Rumor is that they paved over a turtle.

It is about a foot from the Apex of 12a.

[Kitt]

right turn in 11? now i'm lost! haha... dunno which bump exactly you're all referring to.

[GixerJockey]

right turn in 11? now i'm lost! haha... dunno which bump exactly you're all referring to.

Coming out of 12 (12A... whatever... the last left back onto the strait), there is a round hump in the pavement, about a foot off the left curb, shaped like a turtle shell.

[a13x]

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You should attend TTD Graham goes over T11-12 in detail.

Or you could go to the RACING School and get a trackwalk with Eric


Ryan: I used to call it 11, 11A, 12 as well then I saw Eric calling it 12/12A and that made more sense to me. We call it 1 and 1A and that's a left right so by similar logic 12/12A works on the other end

[Doc]

I did the Penguin Advanced school. I will have to check my notes.

It was raining so we did a track ride.

[Paul_E_D]

I generally go to the left of it. If not, then knee to the left tires to the right. Don't get much further right than that for a good drive onto the straight.

I just call it 12. It's a chicane. to me that's a single item.

[a13x]

I did the Penguin Advanced school. I will have to check my notes.

It was raining so we did a track ride.

Two Day school next week

[Doc]

Two Day school next week

I wish. I am lucky to be doing 1 race in September.

[Ken C]

I aim my front wheel directly at the bump and the countersteer for the left-hand turn out tracks the tire so that the front tire ends up just to the right of it.

[Gecko]

right turn in 11? now i'm lost! haha... dunno which bump exactly you're all referring to.

[JRide]

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You should attend TTD Graham goes over T11-12 in detail.

I did this with Graham and it helped tremendously.

I find myself aiming at the bump as Ken said. I'm going to try and get to the left of the bump and see if that helps me get pointed down the straight faster.