250/300 class for LRRS next year?

[THE STUFF 187]

That would be just great would you really.

Oh yeah sure let's make an exception to the rules just for you!


Kurlon....I blame all this on you.

[Bigballsofpaint]

Quick question on the rules, would a ninja 250 be able to switch to EFI and be within the rules? it says ecu and carb modifications allowed, but im not sure how far that goes.

[maxim_X]

I think with the 250's you will be able to follow suberbike rules which will allow you to change to FI.

On that note, is it an easy swap? What does it gain you?

[xsiliconkid]

The Formula 300 class regarding Category "A" bikes follow the general Superbike rules (2013 rule book section 20.2) with the exceptions as outlined in Formula 300 rules (no singles any frame any motor, must be USA spec, only listed models etc).

This does allow you to switch from carb to EFI. Basically go to town on the head... intake and exhaust.
graham
LRRS Chief Referee
ps the rule book about to be released will also make it clear the cc will not be able to increased from stock

[Bigballsofpaint]

It doesnt gain much if anything other than the fact i want to make my 250 EFI already. I hate messing with carbs. I havent even done a trackday yet but i just purchased the bodywork for my 250. Hopefully i can do some trackdays this year and we will see where 2015 takes me

[Kurlon]

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/...he-u-s-market/

Based on the numbers, I'm thinking it should still be a category A machine, and I'd allow CBR250R owners to swap to the 300R's crank if they desire.

[nt650hawk]

http://www.qlinkmotor.com/products/products.php?pid=111



Engine
Type 4-Stroke, Single Cylinder, Water Cooled
Bore x Stroke 70mm x 65mm
Compression Ratio 10.8:1
Carburetion Carburetor
Displacement 249 cc
Max. Torgue 17 / 7000
Horse Power 24 / 8500
Ignition CDI
Transmission 6 Speed
Chassis
Suspension/Front Adjustable Inverted
Suspension/Rear Adjustable Piggyback
Brakes/Front Disc
Brakes/Rear Disc
Tires/Front 110/70-17
Tires/Rear 140/70-17
Dimensions
Length 85"
Width 32.6"
Height 49.6"
Seat Height 37.4"
Ground Clearance 12.5"
Wheelbase 59"
Dry Weight 282 lb
Fuel Capacity 2.1 gal
Other
Warranty 30 Day Limited
MSRP

[OreoGaborio]

Is that more or less the bike Kurtz runs?

[JohnnyV]

The Formula 300 class regarding Category "A" bikes follow the general Superbike rules (2013 rule book section 20.2) with the exceptions as outlined in Formula 300 rules (no singles any frame any motor, must be USA spec, only listed models etc).

http://www.qlinkmotor.com/products/products.php?pid=111


Engine
Type 4-Stroke, Single Cylinder, Water Cooled
Bore x Stroke 70mm x 65mm
Compression Ratio 10.8:1
Carburetion Carburetor
Displacement 249 cc
Max. Torgue 17 / 7000
Horse Power 24 / 8500
Ignition CDI
Transmission 6 Speed
Chassis
Suspension/Front Adjustable Inverted
Suspension/Rear Adjustable Piggyback
Brakes/Front Disc
Brakes/Rear Disc
Tires/Front 110/70-17
Tires/Rear 140/70-17
Dimensions
Length 85"
Width 32.6"
Height 49.6"
Seat Height 37.4"
Ground Clearance 12.5"
Wheelbase 59"
Dry Weight 282 lb
Fuel Capacity 2.1 gal
Other
Warranty 30 Day Limited
MSRP

[Kurlon]

CCS normally has a blind spot for single cylinder bikes that allows them cart blanch to do what they please regardless of class rules. For instance, single cylinder machines in SuperSport are allowed open engine mods, just can't exceed class displacement limits. That line in F300 puts the kibosh on that tom foolery and keeps real motards out.

So, for this (or any bike not listed as approved actually) to be allowed it'd need approval by LRRS. Given what I know of the brand and motor, I'm going to say it'll get curb stomped on by Kurtz's WR. There is another brand putting that same motor into a 'sport bike' chassis that I pointed out earlier in the class discussions.

[Mr. Kurtz]

To Josh's "curb stomping" point...I've discovered I've brought yet another spork to a knife fight. I think that thing would be similar to bringing a straw.

[Jim]

Guys, you're club racing for plastic trophies. Who the F cares?

[CEO]

Looks to me like everyone talking about this niche bike or that ridiculous modification or this rule loophole....

...has COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT OF THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS CLASS.

It's supposed to be a small, cheap, run what ya brung class. Buy one of the couple approved bikes and show up for some competitive racing among other people on very very similar machines. Stop kurlon-izing it.

[Kurlon]

CEO: I was praising LRRS for CLOSING THAT LOOPHOLE in this class! I like the rule structure as is pretty much, although I do think Kurtz's machine needs to be allowed something, SS mods maybe?

[nt650hawk]

Guys, you're club racing for plastic trophies. Who the F cares?

My recycling company cares. It all goes to making parts for Gixxers.

Also all the wood helped me keep warm this past long cold winter. I had about 7 cords worth.