Corner working Questions

[reiobard]

Sweet, pay us $5 and you can work 10 hours. Don't worry about that cap too much.

thanks for promoting the US marshalls...

[drop]

You and I were meant for each other sweety...I'd treat you right!

You like wine? I'd pick grapes for you on a hot summers day...then I'd squeeze those grapes into an award winning wine that I'd then name after you; then take that wine across the country selling it, all the while telling the good wine drinkers across the country how beautiful you are....Does this sound like something you'd be interested in? I'd also bring my shoes and glasses, just so I have them..

don't listen to him. he said mean and hurtful things and hit me with my shoe, and then he invited me fishing and he whipped me with the rods.

[Awesome]

thanks for promoting the US marshalls...

Like by corner working longer than you've known what a race track is?

[OreoGaborio]

So because you started corner working before Rob, that makes you right?

[TIMMYDUCK]

Seems to me I will just rough it. and ride in with my tent each weekend .

[trackdog]

Pay attention here. Bicycle helmets WILL NOT SUFFICE. They were specifically called out as NOT ACCEPTABLE. If you step on a HOT track, you will need headgear. At this point, cornerworkers WILL have to pay for camping, but we're working on that. We are developing a signup process to cornerwork. The track will be putting a ceiling on how many PAID positions we will have each weekend. We are negotiating with the track just what that number will be. More to come...

hahahaha....so I have been gone for a while now..
You pay the track for a wristband to enter, and then pay someone else to stay the night.
Have they installed coin operated crappers yet?

Maybe I don't miss the place so much after all...seems like nothing has changed, or maybe getting worse ?

[Awesome]

So because you started corner working before Rob, that makes you right?

Is there something wrong in my post that's up for debate? $25 for camping with electric, work 10 hours and earn $20 leaves you paying $5 to work. This fact makes me unsupportive of a group I've volunteered for 7 years? The group that Rob was originally heavily criticizing until I recommended he pick up a flag and a bike.

[reiobard]

Is there something wrong in my post that's up for debate? $25 for camping with electric, work 10 hours and earn $20 leaves you paying $5 to work. This fact makes me unsupportive of a group I've volunteered for 7 years? The group that Rob was originally heavily criticizing until I recommended he pick up a flag and a bike.

i think that i misunderstood the original post, sorry, everyone just seems to be on edge since we have all been cooped up all winter, you have been a good supporter of the workers and I apologize for being on edge. And to be clear, i didn't criticize the group, just one worker, but it got me to get off my ass and help, so it was not all bad (i hope)

The pay is based on experience, being a captain, and also if you work a full day or just half. Entrance fee is usually free, camping may or may not be free, and lunches are free (allegedly better this year than the cold cuts in a box) on the days that you work, and when the track is not running a post racing event, there is a cookout (but it looks like the track is going to try an event every weekend)

[KB]

Rob please fill us in on the corner working after your meeting today. Specificaly about the helmets and the number they are going to limit it to.

Thanks!

KB

[reiobard]

Rob please fill us in on the corner working after your meeting today. Specificaly about the helmets and the number they are going to limit it to.

Thanks!

KB

I will be sure to do that, the number will be based on a completely staffed track, the limit is more due to the track wanting a flat invoice from us each week rather than us billing them for what the numbers actually come out to each week. So, we will have a budget to stay within this year, but i feel that we have done a good bit of planning to make sure that we have no issues with the number of workers. I am assuming that as the weeks go on and if we come in under the number a few times that it will loosen up the budget, but the first couple weekends will be imperative that we do not over book workers since there is no money in the account to cover them. As with many things at the track this year, I think it is going to be a roll with it and see how it turns out type of thing.

Updates as soon as i have them though... I am not gong to the meeting, there are 1-2 people from the Marshalls going to meet with the track, we are not all going.

[CMG241]

I'd like to see a statistic of how many accident happen that involve a CW being hit by traffic each event or season.

Honestly, if I am running around a live track to pick up a bike or a rider and I have to wear a full faced helmet or something similar, I will probably not see the bike coming that hits me instead of being able to get out of the way!

I think one of the biggest problems is my bright yellow rain coat and rain paints.

I'm not going to post it but there is a video out there from years ago at NHMS where a corner worker gets taken out while attending to a downed rider in T2. not fun to watch.

I only worked the last race of 09 in T3 and wondered why we weren't wearing helmets. even with the jersey barrier. I kind of partial to the ones the ambulance crew wears.

[mzdagrl]

Is there something wrong in my post that's up for debate? $25 for camping with electric, work 10 hours and earn $20 leaves you paying $5 to work. This fact makes me unsupportive of a group I've volunteered for 7 years? The group that Rob was originally heavily criticizing until I recommended he pick up a flag and a bike.

I know you volunteer and therefore opt to not get paid, but to clarify, if you are working a full day, the pay is a bit better than $20. I make no guarantees as to the amount, since I do not know if it has changed at all, but last I knew it was more than $20.

We all appreciate any help, paid or volunteer

[KB]

I'm not going to post it but there is a video out there from years ago at NHMS where a corner worker gets taken out while attending to a downed rider in T2. not fun to watch.

I only worked the last race of 09 in T3 and wondered why we weren't wearing helmets. even with the jersey barrier. I kind of partial to the ones the ambulance crew wears.

I am more interested in the type and model they are requiring and if there is going to be a standard helmet. This way I can make sure I have one prior to the first weekend as I plan to corner work sat and sunday.

KB

[reiobard]

I am more interested in the type and model they are requiring and if there is going to be a standard helmet. This way I can make sure I have one prior to the first weekend as I plan to corner work sat and sunday.

KB

Same as me, I will be buying my own as well. From what i can tell, they are going to be looking for a hard shell, hockey type of helmet. If anyone remembers the G-Force ones that the track had for loaners, those are going to be the loaners for us as well. As soon as i get real specs then i will pass it along as well as any links i can find for online ordering (since i am going to be buying my own as well.

[reiobard]

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I'd like to see a statistic of how many accident happen that involve a CW being hit by traffic each event or season.

Honestly, if I am running around a live track to pick up a bike or a rider and I have to wear a full faced helmet or something similar, I will probably not see the bike coming that hits me instead of being able to get out of the way!

I think one of the biggest problems is my bright yellow rain coat and rain paints.

Not many, but the reality is that it does happen, there was a worker killed last year (at another track) because a worker went out and got hit. There is no magic number that a track would even consider to allow us to operate sans helmet. 1 in a trillion is not worth risking a life or a brain injury. Also the helmets spec will be sure to provide excellent peripheral vision.

[BusaKing]

ill be out there in this....

if i get stuck in the middle of the track for some reason ill just curl up inside it

[ZX11D]

Count me in for a Friday Class For Sure. Still have a question or two for you. Any opportunity for Medical Staff as I`m a nurse and also any chance I could work Saturdays Only. I work my other job on Sundays thru Thursday with Friday and Saturdays off.

[LowSider]

also any chance I could work Saturdays Only. I work my other job on Sundays thru Thursday with Friday and Saturdays off.

Saturdays only is fine. I usually do Sundays only.

[reiobard]

Count me in for a Friday Class For Sure. Still have a question or two for you. Any opportunity for Medical Staff as I`m a nurse and also any chance I could work Saturdays Only. I work my other job on Sundays thru Thursday with Friday and Saturdays off.

You can be a Saturday only corner worker, the medical staff is a separate crew from us, that task is outsourced to an ambulance company, So the only way to get on the medical crew is to go get a job with them (as far as i know).

[ZX11D]

You can be a Saturday only corner worker, the medical staff is a separate crew from us, that task is outsourced to an ambulance company, So the only way to get on the medical crew is to go get a job with them (as far as i know).

Thats great. I would love to do that (Saturday Only).Can i get in on that Friday class?

[Doc]

You can be a Saturday only corner worker, the medical staff is a separate crew from us, that task is outsourced to an ambulance company, So the only way to get on the medical crew is to go get a job with them (as far as i know).

Golden Cross. PM me for a contact.

[reiobard]

Thats great. I would love to do that (Saturday Only).Can i get in on that Friday class?

Friday class does not exist, it has been talked about, but nothing that has happened yet.

For now, the class is 9am on Saturday mornings in the Media Center. That is the best bet as of right now.

[KB]

So anything come of the meeting yesterday?

KB

[nt650hawk]

It is wonderful to see motorcycle people in the medical profession coming out to help. This is great. I just don't know how this cross over help from the time the situation happens to the Red flag to the Amb. being on site can be in (I’m guessing ) in and around 30 seconds +/-. What I can see of the medical professionals is the patience needed to immediately address an incident but noting too invasive as well as also controlling the situation. More of understanding what is going on with the rider to help relay information to the Amb. crew. Just like a corner Captain. The Captain is not just the average Joe. There is a process that they must go thru to be accepted. Everyone that goes thru this process is not accepted for this roll.

Some things I would leave to the Pro’s Amb. crews are the process of the helmet removal. This was pioneered by Karen Hornbecker who worked for LRRS many years ago and this technique is still used today by the Track Amb. crews.

I’ve CW for the past 3 year I think I have gotten pretty good at addressing a situation and when to make the call for the Amb. With this CW experience I actually saved my neighbors life, while my wife, the AT/PTA was dialing 411 for an emergency phone call. Sorry Honey but this is still funny…… I took charge of the situation calmly and told her what I needed and kept my neighbor as stable as possible for about 5-10 min. Kate later asked me how did you learn how to do this? I told her it was from all the CW I’ve done at the track. It felt great knowing that I saved his life. Would I have been able to do this if I did not have the experience? I don’t know. I think I would have been able to. I think it is human nature to help one another out. I just don’t think I would have been as calm and able to control the situation like I did.

[Kitt]

Im also waiting to hear of corner workers have to pay for camping or not...