Dirtbike guys running the offset triples

[KB]

So is it worth the 500 clams to get the offset triples that bring the geometry back to "streetbike" specs if you will?

I ate shit going into 2 last weekend and now after thinking about it I was going faster each lap into 2. Pretty much nut it out of 1 into 1a, nut it out of 1a stand it up straight to 2 still nutted and tip it into 2 while nutted, next thing I know on my ass. The front just gave out.

I'm not sure if I just wasn't off the bike enough and exceeded the max lean angle, tire was garbage, or it was just a matter of I couldn't feel what the front was doing and lost it, or the old I don't know what I am doing?

So moral of the story is, will triples let me "feel" the front some more?

KB

[Awesome]

You want to take some measurements tonight?

[mmracer37]

Definately worth the beans!!! I know it sounds like a sales pitch, but it was probably the biggest improvement to my CRF. I went from a 24mm offset to a 10mm. No more chatter!

[KB]

Thanks mike. Perhaps I could take your CRF out for a practice over the classic? I'll be up for thursday practice.

KB

[a13x]

Eric spoke highly of the change to his CRF with it. He dropped over a second and so did Jeff once they made the switch.

[rebelpacket]

Totally worth the beans. The way the Husky felt before it blew up was amazing. The feel from the front end was ten times better, and I was able to brake much much later than I was before without the feeling that the front was going to tuck.

Just my thoughts.

[a13x]

Yo Mike,

What are your thoughts on offset clamps for pure-supermoto racing? (aka tight tracks, dirt sections).

I was going to pick up a set originally, under the assumption I was mainly racing at LRRS. Now that I'm out in NorCal thou... and Supermoto is the way of the game, not sure if it's the same performance upgrade.

thoughts?

-alex

[mmracer37]

Yo Mike,

What are your thoughts on offset clamps for pure-supermoto racing? (aka tight tracks, dirt sections).

I was going to pick up a set originally, under the assumption I was mainly racing at LRRS. Now that I'm out in NorCal thou... and Supermoto is the way of the game, not sure if it's the same performance upgrade.

thoughts?

-alex

Same deal, it'll improve the bike on any racetrack. You'll actually be able to really carve thru the berms in the dirt sections. It will give you more stability overall.

[a13x]

Ooh la la.

Might be time (soon) to drop my buddy at Tri-Starr a line!


Thanks for the info.

[Puppet]

I talked to Graham yesterday after the TD and he went from the stock 18mm to 10mm on his KTM and loved it. Said it was definately worth it

[WebCrush]

yep, i have the tri-stars on my bike.

without the offset, you lose a lot of trail with the 17" wheel change

[KB]

OK I took the plunge this weekend and I am very happy with the results. Not so happy with the dent it put in my pocket, but hey fuck it it's racing right.

Much more feel, the front feels planted, you can trail brake AND feel what the front "might" do.

All in all a great purchase. Congrats to PK on the upsell. "Hey KB you want to try these? If you don't like them I'll take them off!" fucker..............thanks Pete!!! I love them.

KB

[beet]

Definately worth the beans!!! I know it sounds like a sales pitch, but it was probably the biggest improvement to my CRF. I went from a 24mm offset to a 10mm. No more chatter!

Ryes bike was hot hot looking, that does look like fun, caugh caugh for a Honda.

[a13x]

So finally gonna make the move to some offsets. What's the skinny on what mm to get?

Bike has 16.5" front and stock triple.

Looking at these with 22mm offset - '03-'08 Suzuki RMZ/RM Triple Clamp Set - BLUE - Dirt Bike Triple Clamps | Ride Eng.
And these with 22.5 - Triple Clamps - Availability


Would either of these be the hot ticket?

[Tricky Mike]

Both seem like they have way too much, no?
I went with 8MM offset clamps (from 20MM). My front wheel's 17 inchah, too...
Would the 16.5 require an even greater reduction in offset to bring trail back to where it needs to be?

[Paul_E_D]

10 is the magic number...

[mmracer37]

Ding, ding, we have a winner! Paul is right.

[gmdboston]

I have a set in stock for the Honda CRF

[a13x]

Ding, ding, we have a winner! Paul is right.

So a 10mm offset triple clamp is what I should/need to look for. I have NFI hence why I'm asking.

Hrm. Wonder if anyone even makes a 10mm offset for the RMZ.

[gmdboston]

Yes, what bars and damper are you running?

[a13x]

Yes, what bars and damper are you running?

Renthal's with no damper.

[gmdboston]

$650 Hard Black ano. Do you want any engraving, like f*&^ Du*@!^ ????

[xsiliconkid]

So is it worth the 500 clams to get the offset triples --------- was just a matter of I couldn't feel what the front was doing and lost it, ................?

So moral of the story is, will triples let me "feel" the front some more?

KB

BINGO..... I had it done to my KTM560 a couple of years back and it makes it an entirely different bike... much more feel.... just be careful like on a superbike you can't just waggle the bars at anytime in a corner..... Goes from whay-to-tippy with no feel to great control / feel ..

I wanted the offset reduced on my Husky 630 but Pete won't do it :-)......we measured the trail and when forks depressed trail turns negative.... ouch!!!! Can you spell tank slapping over T 7 to 8

[xsiliconkid]

Both seem like they have way too much, no?
I went with 8MM offset clamps (from 20MM). My front wheel's 17 inchah, too...
Would the 16.5 require an even greater reduction in offset to bring trail back to where it needs to be?

the radius from center hub to track surface is about the same for both a 16.5" rim and a 17" rim... the 16.5" rim tire has more tire "height"..... it's designed that way....

[gmdboston]

the radius from center hub to track surface is about the same for both a 16.5" rim and a 17" rim... the 16.5" rim tire has more tire "height"..... it's designed that way....

Which is why the 16.5 rear tires need more swing arm angle to get the grip, they "squish" more.