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    you've lost me... I don't brake until about 1/2 to 2/3 way down the hill towards the bowl.

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    Come on now, if you're going to ruin my street cred at least use one of my better showings, not when I was on tires that were already one weekend past their shelf life.

    in all honesty if, if you took any offense to my slow comment (which I doubt you did) i apoligize. i just feel like busting peoples balls today.

    as far as 1, 1a, 2....... i have no idea not being on a 600. as far as 6, my word of advice, try carrying 1 gear higher than you have in the past. end result you don't get as much engine breaking which will make your entry more comfortable allowing you to brake a bit later.... like Jay says, when you are going up hill. trailbraking isn't 100% necessary, better to have as quick a turn in as possible there and start to roll on. should result in more mid corner speed so you wont start to lug up the hill by being in the taller gear. try it a couple times as it will probably seem like a struggle the first lap you do it.

    p.s. try to build more reference points, braking 1/2-1/3 way down the hill is going to help you lose consistency. do you use the cones on the right at all?

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    he means braking going "up hill" as in the banking that is there in T6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitt View Post
    oh, and i'm losing the most ground on the entrance to the bowl...
    I lose alot of time there braking too. I know I can go in faster I just have to figure it out. Im looking forward to practice tomm to get things squared away.

    I find I make up alot of time from 7-11 as this is where I find myself right on peoples asses the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMFR6 View Post
    he means braking going "up hill" as in the banking that is there in T6.
    Bingo.

    When it feels like you're braking light toward the end of your braking zone, you're slowing much harder than you realize because of the forces. It's kindof a tricky perception thing, but you can get more power out of your braking if you wait to use it. I'm confusing myself trying to figure a way to explain it. You feel like you're at a braking limit going down the hill so you think you're braking where you need to, if you do it later, you get more function out of the brakes and the braking limit is higher because of the slop of the bowl.

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    now the trick I have noticed with this, when you come through 5 and down the hill you want to be more to the center of the track. by doing this you will come into the steep part of the banking. brake. quick turn. see ya. if you come down the right side of the track (like a lot of people do), you don't get as much banking for the brakes then you will tend to have a lazy turn in and ride right around the banking to the apex like you were driving a nascar. not fast.

    edit: did that make any sense?

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    that #6 plate did a 14:1 on the sv last weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by pps216 View Post
    that #6 plate did a 14:1 on the sv last weekend

    Damn, a 14:1?? Did he push it around the track??
    just playing. is he going to break into the 13's this year? just how built is that bike?

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    that bike is 110 HP...no doubt in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s a x m a n View Post
    dude ... first off, before you piss anyone off
    ... don't even start to compare times ... 23s in LW is winning times as an AM
    i dont know... i did a 20.6 and was in 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    i dont know... i did a 20.6 and was in 4th

    lol, you must just run slow 20's.

    you going to be able to race saturdays any of these last weekends? probably have a good time with us in gtl and lwss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    i dont know... i did a 20.6 and was in 4th

    Yea I was going to say.. where are the AM races where a 23 gets you a win. Shit even in the motard AM class running 20's doesn't even ensure a win.

    Jeff Wood did a 12.8 on a SV. Silly. (riding Doug's, rumoured to have 100'ish). Rick D's has around 100 or so I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Topping 5th on the straight on a 600 I drop one gear into turn one and one gear as I'm transitioning the bike over from 1A to 2. Different strokes for different folks, find what works for you. It helps a TON to have someone watch you during a race to see from the sidelines where you are losing time on the racers around you. That is how you know what sections to work on first and most.
    You're welcome.

    Call me COACH KB!! I just told you what I saw the fast guys doin is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitt View Post
    but if a guy who club races has to come on the intraweb and say im slow, im going to go ahead and guess he's fucking around, in which.. i respond with "i'll be faster than you this week"... calm yourself... nobody here is getting serious and crying, but your internet loyalty for DNF is commendable
    Dude, it's called ball busting, you slow ass. Everyone gets called slow, you don't take offense to it.

    Shit, Jeff Wood is slow, even I can beat him and i'm REALLY slow.

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    Can't we all just get along...

    I would have to agree w/ you all. #6...#11...and that fella #26 have serious machines. We will all just have to admire w/60 h.p. Your fellow lw-eighter

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    we hope that the #6 machine is around 95hp but we dynoed it around 78hp haha the #6 #11 battles will get them into the 13s at some point this year.... and i hope everyone is ready to see my new supersport sv ride im going to unvail in sat practice the paint scheme is a riot.. ( this is the first ever sv to run a loudon)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGitorio View Post
    Dude, it's called ball busting, you slow ass. Everyone gets called slow, you don't take offense to it.

    Shit, Jeff Wood is slow, even I can beat him and i'm REALLY slow.
    petes so slow he thought he was first....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMFR6 View Post
    lol, you must just run slow 20's.

    you going to be able to race saturdays any of these last weekends? probably have a good time with us in gtl and lwss.
    i cant run LWSS (gsxr forks) id love to do a sat race but friday and sat are the 2 hardest days to get off of work. maybe...we will see

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    Hey, I can beat ANYONE to the finish line, including Jeff Wood.


    .... doesn't necessarily mean i did as many LAPS as he did.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    i cant run LWSS (gsxr forks) id love to do a sat race but friday and sat are the 2 hardest days to get off of work. maybe...we will see
    GTL.

    anyone else find it amusing that pete thinks we are kidding when we call him slow?

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