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These two situations, Rossi's and Simoncelli's, are identical. They both went too late on the brakes for the situation. I guess the only argument is that simoncelli has been criticized for this a lot lately. Thing is, Rossi has been criticized a lot for the same thing. How about Laguna? He had a number of dangerous passes in that race. His battles with Gibernau were also notoriously harsh. I think I remember Rossi getting docked once for aggressive riding.
I think the ride through was fair and sent a message that you can't win a race by taking other riders out.
I agree Paul. I message did have to be sent. In the flip side of things, how do you draw a line in between pure competition and unsafe passing? Just saying, sometimes it is hard to make the distinction. I guess that given Simoncelli's history this early is the season the racing commission did make the right call.
Rossi too can be very harsh sometimes. I mean if the man wants to get past you he will find a way. As for the last incident with Stoner, it did suck for him to take out Stoner. However, I have to concede while it may not change the results his apologizing to Stoner showed character (on or off camera). He got off of his bike and immediately walked over to the Repsol garage to apologize. Unfortunately, it is evident that Stoner still holds a grudge with Rossi.
Last edited by Eddie; 05-18-11 at 08:04 AM.
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I don't know why you guys don't like Pedrosa.
Scott
1990 Honda Hawk NT700 (rebuilt?)
2012 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (retarded fun)
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yup. i don't mean he can't setup a bike, just that he never developed that bike without rossi/burgess working at it too - there's a big difference between setup and development. we'll find out how well he develops a motogp bike over the next year or so. he came into yamaha after burgess and rossi had spent years working their magic.
it looks like honda just plain beat everyone on the technical side this season. it'll be interesting to see if the other factories really want to pour $$ into this year's bike with the pending changes - just pointing out that if georgie-boy can develop a motogp machine we might have to wait until next season to see it. the jury's very much out at the moment.
Scott
1990 Honda Hawk NT700 (rebuilt?)
2012 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (retarded fun)
The one big difference, IMO, was Rossi's move was in a wet race where every rider has commented about the widely varying grip levels (and he went up the inside). Simoncelli's move was in the dry (relatively consistent grip) and he went around the outside then cut across Pedrosa's front wheel.
And as far as bike development goes, Rossi-developed bikes have a history of winning championships. Nicky won his world title the year after Rossi left for Yamaha, Jorge wins when Rossi missed a good part of the year with injury. I'm predicting Ducati is very, very strong next year.
-Brian
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I'm predicting Honda is super strong next year. Stoner has already been on the 2012 bike.
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as much as i hate to say it, my money is on ducati for the best bike out of the box. then yamaha, then honda. i see another rule change honda flop coming up and they really don't have the best team when it comes to development. everyone of their riders is very different and top caliber..... who do they build the bike around?
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I read somewhere Rossi has already been riding the 1000 Ducati, if he can make this years bike consistent which he appears to be doing judging by the results so far, I am guessing that next year they will be in with a good shot of the title.
yeah but Honda doesn't like losing in the GPs. That's why they have the rules changed. They wanted 800s they got them but couldn't win a title with it so they got the rules changed again but are making a last ditch effort to win an 800 title with essentially 4 factory riders although one seems to be on a Team Honda-destruction mission.
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Come on, we all know Ducati is paying three riders.
Rossi, Hayden... and.... you guessed it. Simoncelli.
Well, Ducati and Yamaha are probably splitting the bill.