Vintage Racing LDR AND ECK 2011

[lrrs428]

As most of you know members from LDR and a member of ECK participated in the 2011 Big Fish Little Pond vintage event last summer. We all rode Wild Bill's Hawk for 2hrs, 30mins, 20min sessions. needless to say it was a friggin blast. Does anyone know the rules or where I could find them as to what bikes qualify? we are definitely doing it again this year and we want more bikes in it. Anyone interested in riding for us if we get another like 2 bikes?

[Mr. Kurtz]

I'm pretty sure I heard it was on Labor Day this weekend. I'm also curious about the rules, as some of the RSP guys and I wanted to enter.

[darkduc7]

http://www.race-uscra.com/forms/USCRA_2011_RuleBook.pdf

im in if we find a bike

[csmutty]

Yes it is on Labor Day this year which is september 3rd, which happens to be right after the lrrs race on september 1-2.

http://race-uscra.com/forms/USCRA_2011_RuleBook.pdf

Basically for bikes that we have or are more common at Loudon: Ex500, Gs500, Hawk, 125GP bike, etc.

Edit...crap. Ya beat me.

[catahoulabuldog]

where does the hawk fit in class wise?

[Rada]

I will be a new racer this season but would be interested in participating if there is a place available for a newb

[mzdagrl]

where does the hawk fit in class wise?

"Fast" believe it or not.

[mmarsden]

im doing it again . it was a blast. this time the fzr400 we rode wont be running on only 3cyls..

[Kitt]

My leathers are around here somewhere....

[Kurlon]

im doing it again . it was a blast. this time the fzr400 we rode wont be running on only 3cyls..

Wait, they let an FZR400 in?

HrrrRRRrrrrrmmmmm....

[mmarsden]

yes it was an 87 fzr400. no problem

[Kurlon]

yes it was an 87 fzr400. no problem

Wonder if they'll let my 92 in then?

[lrrs313]

I really need to get a new helmet and go retake Penguin school to get licensed for this. It was a lot of fun being pit crew last year, but I dammit, I wanna RIDE!

[csmutty]

Wonder if they'll let my 92 in then?

Were there any significant differences between the years?

And will you have any aftermarket mods?

[mmarsden]

have to check rules but as stated above if theres no changes to bike other than cosmetic it should be ok.. just double check rulebook (very confusing)

[jerseygirl]

So happy to hear interest in the endurance race. You guys were....um entertaining

The race was actually over our two day weekend which was September 17 and 18 in 2011. I know they are finalizing the schedule soon and when I find out the date of the endurance race, I will let you all know. My guess it that it will be over our two day weekend August 18 and 19 as it takes time away from the regular races. If you have any other questions, let Johnny B or myself know and we will help you out.

[csmutty]

So happy to hear interest in the endurance race. You guys were....um entertaining

The race was actually over our two day weekend which was September 17 and 18 in 2011. I know they are finalizing the schedule soon and when I find out the date of the endurance race, I will let you all know. My guess it that it will be over our two day weekend August 18 and 19 as it takes time away from the regular races. If you have any other questions, let Johnny B or myself know and we will help you out.

Johnny B said it was supposed to happen on Labor day this year...

Paging Johnny B?

[Kurlon]

Um... yeah... my 92 is 2 generations ahead of the 1st gen bikes the US got, motor has been massaged... yeah... so likely not.

Of course, according to the rule book liquid cooled or aluminum frames are automatic outs also so the Hawk and 87 Fizzer shouldn't be there either.

[jerseygirl]

Nothing is set in stone regarding the schedule, but I can almost guarantee it will not be Labor Day weekend. The race takes 3 hours out of our schedule so we wouldn't do it on a one day event like Labor Day. My mom is the race director for August and I left her a message regarding this. I will let you know when I her something.

[csmutty]

Nothing is set in stone regarding the schedule, but I can almost guarantee it will not be Labor Day weekend. The race takes 3 hours out of our schedule so we wouldn't do it on a one day event like Labor Day. My mom is the race director for August and I left her a message regarding this. I will let you know when I her something.

Ugh that sucks. They had done it labor day in the past?

I do appreciate the info though. Thanks!

[tls25rs]

I would be interested in either riding or crewing when these plans come together.

[Yknot]

where does the hawk fit in class wise?

The Hawk is in Period IV, Formula 3 provisional class, pre Dec. 31st 1989. This is also the class for Suzuki GS550 and Kawasaki EX250/500; current models allowed.

It's all fun and games until Gino shows up....

Kerry, It is good to be entertaining ...not too good to be intrusive...

[Yknot]

And nothing in that class about steel frame only

[csmutty]

Um... yeah... my 92 is 2 generations ahead of the 1st gen bikes the US got, motor has been massaged... yeah... so likely not.

Of course, according to the rule book liquid cooled or aluminum frames are automatic outs also so the Hawk and 87 Fizzer shouldn't be there either.

Yeah no idea how they were permitted...hmm.

[Trouble]

The Hawk is in Period IV, Formula 3 provisional class, pre Dec. 31st 1989. This is also the class for Suzuki GS550 and Kawasaki EX250/500; current models allowed.

It's all fun and games until Gino shows up....

Kerry, It is good to be entertaining ...not too good to be intrusive...

Looks like the Hawks got shut down on the 2011 rule book. There's no Period IV, Formula 3.

5.8 Period IV Classes: Formula 1, Formula 2
and Formula EX/GS
5.8.1 Formula 1
Eligibility cut-off: Dec. 31st, 1985, No updating beyond this year.
Similar, later models without performance improvements may
apply in writing for approval. The use of tire warmers is permitted
for Formula 1.
• 4-stroke air-cooled, steel frame
unlimited displacement (1103cc maximum)
• 2-stroke 750cc maximum
5.8.2 Formula 2
Eligibility cut-off: Dec. 31st, 1985, no updating beyond this year.
Similar, later models without performance improvements may
apply in writing for approval.
• 4-stroke air-cooled 650cc maximum
• 2-stroke liquid cooled 350cc maximum
• 2-stroke air-cooled 500cc maximum
5.8.3 Formula EX/GS
Eligibility: 4-stroke, 500cc maximum
No restrictions on model year.
All other rules of Formula 1/2 apply.