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I am going to be riding an EX500 on the track this weekend.
You guys got a crash course on anything I should know about riding one of these beasts?
Any advice would be great, Riding tips, what to look for on the bike, forums I shoould visit...?
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
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it doesn't like spinning much more than 10k. Shift around 9.5-10.
if the frame starts wobbling at speed, slide back in the seat a little.
be smooth w/ imputs & body movements or expect frame flex.
other than that... it's a motorcycle... flog the fukker![]()
-Pete
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Shift below 10000 rpm and "Flog the Fucker" Good advice!Originally posted by OreoGitorio
it doesn't like spinning much more than 10k. Shift around 9.5-10.
other than that... it's a motorcycle... flog the fukker![]()
Where should I keep the revs then? Where is the meat of the power?
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
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there's meat in the power? damn, i've been missin out.Originally posted by Doc
Shift below 10000 rpm and "Flog the Fucker" Good advice!
Where should I keep the revs then? Where is the meat of the power?
it's got the power of a killer slug between 7 & 10k... it's a regular slug everywhere else.
Last edited by OreoGaborio; 01-15-07 at 09:44 PM.
-Pete
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oh yeah, if you get to the apex & you're not rolling on the gas yet, you shoulda been WFO 5 minutes ago
-Pete
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pray that you get a 17" model. otherwise just throw the bike on the side and hope thats the only time it hits the asphault
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I NEED the practice.
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have fun man, post some pics at speed, etc. trackday or racing??![]()
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gotta be a trackday... who the hell in their right mind would race an EX500?
-Pete
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Race school.![]()
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Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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Don't worry about how fast you are. Instead, concentrate on smoothness. Speed will come.
Things I have learned for being a successful EX500 rider.
1. Shift below 10000 rpm and "Flog the Fucker"
2. Power (what little it has) is in the 7-10k range.
3. Pray for the 17 inch tire model
4. As with any bike Be smooth. (what is that saying, slow is smooth and smooth is fast???)
5. if the frame starts wobbling at speed, slide back in the seat a little.
6.be smooth w/ imputs & body movements or expect frame flex
Anything else?
Last edited by Doc; 01-16-07 at 05:39 PM.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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well i edited my first post in case you didn't see it.... nothin special.
It's a bike, just like any other bike... you get on it, you ride it, you learn it.
-Pete
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which track are ya doin'? east, west, or main?
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I think it will be the main track.Originally posted by SVRACER01
which track are ya doin'? east, west, or main?
http://www.roadracesw.com/schedule.html
Top one here. http://www.aztrackday.com/v2/index.p...&id=9&Itemid=6
Got tips or video clips Oxx?
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
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lots of tips. youre on an EX500? bring something to eat because that straightaway is 1/2 a mile long![]()
seriously... (this is mainly a late apex track)
T1: alot of the guys on fast bikes can run the inside line here. not you. youre slow and need all the cornerspeed you can get. there are 2 brass caps out there in T1 (i dont know what they are but i swear they are there) youll see them during class (when you are going slow. just drift out a little and you will see them. go to the outside of them (just miss them) and start bring it back in tight. this makes T2 and T3 almost a straight therefore giving a chance to pass on the inside of T3.
T3&4 nothing real special. late apex both
T5: there is a small hill between 4&5 this means you cant see 5. get close to the wall and just after you go under the bridge there is a small building on your left (for time slips for drag racing) between the bridge and this "hut" is your turn in. throw it in there. there is alot of grip and trust me there is track over there![]()
T6-T10: this is where it gets trickey or what i call "fun"remember this is a LATE APEX TRACK... especially through here. im not sue about the EX but youre gonna be doing some tap dancing on the shifter through here.T6 looks like 2 turns but its 1 long one. on the brakes (grab a downshift?) and work your way through the turns. IIRC.. there is an "oil stain" (unless they resurfaced the track) between T8 and T9, its not slippery but go to the right of it (late apex) to cut left for T9 which will straighten T10 a little especially if ride the rumble strips in T10.
T11 (aka- the tower turn) this ones tough. everytime i thought i had figured it out someone passed me through hereagain.. late apex. all i know is.. aim for the wall/cornerstaion on the inside of T11 just before the straight. i think theres a haybale there. you should be on it hard here just let the bike drift out towards the opposite wall on the straight. the DRAGSTRIP starting line LOOKS slick. its not. its rubber from drag cars. the blue checkerd paint between the lanes where the tree goes can be sketchy on a big bike but you should be OK.
thats all i can think of. hope it helps. just remember LATE APEX. if you fuck up anywhere between T5-T10 your fucked until you get to T11 or the straight. youll lose speed, momentum, and most importantly... rhythm. when you "get" this track its way fun. my roommate hated it but hes an idiot. no really he is.![]()
if you get the chance to cornerwork before your races try to get T4. you can see the whole track except T11. your wicked close to the action and youre in the shadeyou can also see where the turn in is for T5 and the big bikes wheelie about a foot away from you
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any questions just ask me, or Ted (hell be easy to spot with a bunch of orange bikes) or Jewitt.
good luck man, hope that helped![]()
When I start my KTM in the morning, rules are broken. Its inevitable...
01 SV650S (RC51 eater)/07 690SM /03 300EXC/14 XTZ1200
TRACKS:Firebird/NHMS/VIR/Calabogie/California Speedway/NJMP/MMC/NYST/Palmer/Thompson/Club Motorsports
Originally posted by SVRACER01
lots of tips. youre on an EX500? bring something to eat because that straightaway is 1/2 a mile long![]()
seriously... (this is mainly a late apex track)
T1: alot of the guys on fast bikes can run the inside line here. not you. youre slow and need all the cornerspeed you can get. there are 2 brass caps out there in T1 (i dont know what they are but i swear they are there) youll see them during class (when you are going slow. just drift out a little and you will see them. go to the outside of them (just miss them) and start bring it back in tight. this makes T2 and T3 almost a straight therefore giving a chance to pass on the inside of T3.
T3&4 nothing real special. late apex both
T5: there is a small hill between 4&5 this means you cant see 5. get close to the wall and just after you go under the bridge there is a small building on your left (for time slips for drag racing) between the bridge and this "hut" is your turn in. throw it in there. there is alot of grip and trust me there is track over there![]()
T6-T10: this is where it gets trickey or what i call "fun"remember this is a LATE APEX TRACK... especially through here. im not sue about the EX but youre gonna be doing some tap dancing on the shifter through here.T6 looks like 2 turns but its 1 long one. on the brakes (grab a downshift?) and work your way through the turns. IIRC.. there is an "oil stain" (unless they resurfaced the track) between T8 and T9, its not slippery but go to the right of it (late apex) to cut left for T9 which will straighten T10 a little especially if ride the rumble strips in T10.
T11 (aka- the tower turn) this ones tough. everytime i thought i had figured it out someone passed me through hereagain.. late apex. all i know is.. aim for the wall/cornerstaion on the inside of T11 just before the straight. i think theres a haybale there. you should be on it hard here just let the bike drift out towards the opposite wall on the straight. the DRAGSTRIP starting line LOOKS slick. its not. its rubber from drag cars. the blue checkerd paint between the lanes where the tree goes can be sketchy on a big bike but you should be OK.
thats all i can think of. hope it helps. just remember LATE APEX. if you fuck up anywhere between T5-T10 your fucked until you get to T11 or the straight. youll lose speed, momentum, and most importantly... rhythm. when you "get" this track its way fun. my roommate hated it but hes an idiot. no really he is.![]()
if you get the chance to cornerwork before your races try to get T4. you can see the whole track except T11. your wicked close to the action and youre in the shadeyou can also see where the turn in is for T5 and the big bikes wheelie about a foot away from you
![]()
any questions just ask me, or Ted (hell be easy to spot with a bunch of orange bikes) or Jewitt.
good luck man, hope that helped![]()
That was awesome! Post of the year!!!
Can I call you on saturday if I need more advice while I am at the track?![]()
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
EX# X
Originally posted by Doc
Things I have learned for being a successful EX500 rider.
1. Shift below 10000 rpm and "Flog the Fucker"
2. Power (what little it has) is in the 7-10k range.
3. Pray for the 17 inch tire model
4. As with any bike Be smooth. (what is that saying, slow is smooth and smooth is fast???)
5. if the frame starts wobbling at speed, slide back in the seat a little.
6.be smooth w/ imputs & body movements or expect frame flex
7. Your riding an EX, Bring a snack for the long straight.
Anything else?
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
EX# X
sure.. you can call me![]()
When I start my KTM in the morning, rules are broken. Its inevitable...
01 SV650S (RC51 eater)/07 690SM /03 300EXC/14 XTZ1200
TRACKS:Firebird/NHMS/VIR/Calabogie/California Speedway/NJMP/MMC/NYST/Palmer/Thompson/Club Motorsports
See my report here.
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...threadid=26001
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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