VIN and engine number required by racetracks?

[jcbell1007]

If you had good documentation, you would not likely be charged, but you'd still have the stolen goods confiscated (by the popo) so they could be returned to the original owner, right?

Correct. If determined that what you had was in fact stolen, it would be seized as evidence and either returned to the owner, or, if insurance had already paid out to the owner, the insurance company becomes the victim and they usually put the item up for auction. If you had documentation for what you thought was a legitimate sale then you would not be charged. In VT the state must prove that a reasonable person would have known the item was stolen. receiving stolen property

I'm not sure how other states laws are but that is what we have for a procedure.

That being said, if this happened to you and you thought you were buying a legitimate piece of property, you would then have a civil suit and be named as a victim in the criminal case as you were defrauded as well.

[Rambunctous]

I go along with it. With conditions. If they find a thief they are required to throw them in a woodchipper. No probation and rehabiltation crap.

[Degsy]

Wirelessly posted

I agree.

TZ250? Whats that? GP what? No 17 digit vin?

Woodchipper for you!

[jcbell1007]

off topic

was there a website posted in another thread that allowed you to do a free check for liens by vin? (not the link in this thread).

If so, could someone post it or PM it to me?

[jcbell1007]

Wirelessly posted

I agree.

TZ250? Whats that? GP what? No 17 digit vin?

Woodchipper for you!

Clarification on non conforming VIN's.

If a vehicle has a 17 digit vin, it can be entered in a nationwide database called NCIC as stolen. Its a national database for stolen/missing property/people. If the vin doesn't conform, it can still be entered as stolen so when checked through the system, the serial number (non-conforming VIN) would still pop as stolen. Engine's could be entered as stolen property if the owner reported it stolen and had the engine number to have it entered. If the owner doesn't the serial number, it can't be entered into the database.

Also, if it's a custom machine and you would like it to have a VIN, state DMV's will and can issue VIN's to frames, bodies, etc... If you custom build a car, with a custom frame, in order to have it registered, it must have a VIN to get plated. Same idea with an off road bike. If you want one bad enough, they can get stamp it for you.

The whole system is much more confusing but thats a reader's digest version of it.

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off topic

was there a website posted in another thread that allowed you to do a free check for liens by vin? (not the link in this thread).

If so, could someone post it or PM it to me?

not sure what state you wanted to check but the link below will do a basic lookup for MA titles. it'll tell you the lienholder(s), if any, and the title status (clear, salvage, etc).

https://secure.rmv.state.ma.us/TitleLookup/intro.aspx


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[Rambunctous]

Wirelessly posted

I agree.

TZ250? Whats that? GP what? No 17 digit vin?

Woodchipper for you!

Wanna bet? It has numbers. I live to race again.

[Kurlon]

Wirelessly posted

I agree.

TZ250? Whats that? GP what? No 17 digit vin?

Woodchipper for you!

What?! You bastard, I'll clog that woodchipper just to show you!

[Degsy]

Wirelessly posted

Wirelessly posted

I agree.

TZ250? Whats that? GP what? No 17 digit vin?

Woodchipper for you!

Wanna bet? It has numbers. I live to race again.

17 digit vin?

[rolker]

Wirelessly posted



17 digit vin?

Of course. All GP bikes have 17 digit VINs. It's just that they have to use a URL shortener to get it down to 5 digits to fit on the bike.

[Rambunctous]

Wirelessly posted



17 digit vin?

JYAADP005SA006122

[Garandman]

Yes... this IS a discussion... but you and bergs love turning discussions into arguments. //

Np they don't!

[butcher bergs]

Cant you two motherfuckers just hug it out at some point?

I am here with open arms when you are ready, Pete.

[tsorfas]

is it winter at your locations peeps? cheer up we still got plenty of riding to do

[obsolete]

Wait for it...