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    max strength locktite?

    So how does one get a bolt with max strength locktite
    loose?

    I'm damn near stripping the thing... used a heat gun but
    I'm getting afraid I'll burn/ melt things around it.

    Trying to remove my scotts steering damper...
    I have those odd headed security bolts so they seem easier to strip
    than a normal hex bolt.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Air? I have no idea really.

    or ask PK to look at it funny.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Tap the end of the bolt in the same fashion as a nail. Don't smash it, just a firm tap should break it up.

    Maybe even try tapping while attempting to turn the bolt...

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Heat + Impact gun. Heat it with a torch, then hit it with an impact gun. The heat gun won't generate enough heat to release the loctite.

    Oh and pray. Depending on the color, you could be in for a chore. Red loctite will come loose with an impact gun usually, heat makes it easier. From what I've been told, green loctite might as well be welded.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Give the bolt a good shot with a hammer. The vibration will break a part the locktite.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    A torch will heat up the loctite and it will come right off. Like a plumbers torch. But if it is close to anything that can melt, good luck.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    You might want to try this.....

    http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    You might want to try this.....

    http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/
    wow! that is a pretty good find there! I didnt even know they had that stuff. I'd try that!

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    You might want to try this.....

    http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/

    Thanks for coming out of the arcade long enough to share this.

    I've never seen that stuff either. I wonder if it would work with pressing bearings too.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Its freon 134 in a can

    Use of CO2 fire extinguisher old indian trick also for bearings

    Note for rust nuts not loctite

    Torch but use wet rags and aluminum foil to shield ajoining areas.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    Torch but use wet rags and aluminum foil to shield ajoining areas.
    Nice maybe next time for now I think the head is starting to strip.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Another little trick I used to do is tig weld a smaller short bolt on top of the head of the stripped bolt. (The heat alone from the tig will loosten up the loctite) Then just turn the new bolt, and the old one will come out as well.
    You can also weld a nut on top instead of a bolt. He will make his weld puddle on the inside of the nut so you can still get the socket around the hex of the nut.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    You might want to try this.....

    http://loctitefreezeandrelease.com/
    This stuff loooks pretty good, I might have to pick up a bottle just to have around!


    Akira... You getting rid of the steering Damper of just need to get under it?

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Like many people said the way to remove the permanant loctite is heat. It says on the package to only use on bolts you don't plan on removing.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    I use the med. stuff on most apps. I only use the high strength on rotor bolts

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by brendanp View Post
    I use the med. stuff on most apps. I only use the high strength on rotor bolts
    Think the dealer did this. Or I confused my Honda Red locktite (which is medium) with Locktite brand red which max strength. #^%$!

    And scubasteveRR no not selling it. Just trying to get to my air filter
    to get all the motor oil off of it after my hydrolock incident (see other engine seize thread). Anyway managed to slip the tank cover off with out removing the steering damper.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Akira - do you have a good soldering gun (not iron, gun)? Something along the lines of 200-300 watts. This can put a lot of focused heat onto a bolt w/o worrying about torching plastics/tank. Soldering Gun

    Yeah...+1 on the heat, hammer tap and impact gun; feather the trigger will let the gun knock it loose. If a larger air impact, don't WOT unless you wanna see a tiny 1/4" torx drive shatter.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    [QUOTE=idratherberidin;742271]Thanks for coming out of the arcade long enough to share this.

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    Fair statement, but I do spend more time reading in the forum than it appears.
    Alot of free time at work and bored so the arcade helps pass the time

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by idratherberidin View Post
    Thanks for coming out of the arcade long enough to share this.

    I've never seen that stuff either. I wonder if it would work with pressing bearings too.
    Fair statement, but I do spend more time reading in the forum than it appears.
    Alot of free time at work and bored so the arcade helps pass the time

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by keeena View Post
    Akira - do you have a good soldering gun (not iron, gun)? Something along the lines of 200-300 watts. This can put a lot of focused heat onto a bolt w/o worrying about torching plastics/tank. Soldering Gun

    Yeah...+1 on the heat, hammer tap and impact gun; feather the trigger will let the gun knock it loose. If a larger air impact, don't WOT unless you wanna see a tiny 1/4" torx drive shatter.
    Thanks! Good idea... those are like little micro torches?
    Seen them at U Do It Electronics. Seem like they are better for
    soldering in tight areas over the iron style soldering tools.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    If all else fails, take a grinder and grind a slot into the head and try to twist it out with a flat-blade bit on a drill.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by akira700 View Post
    Thanks! Good idea... those are like little micro torches?
    The gun is electric, micro-torches are butane. I just mentioned a gun b/c its higher wattage than an iron (irons are usually 10-50 watts and used for more delicate work). U-do-it should have 'em.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Depending on the size of the bolt you may need more heat than a micro torch. A better option would be a Oxy/Mapp setup made by burnsomatic. This setup uses two small bottles and you can grab from home depot. The advantage here is that it comes with a small welding torch head that can be focused to a small point. This is $40 that really pays in the long run. You just need to know how to set up a neutral flame. This will give you clean focused heat without adding a ton of carbon.

    Good Luck, Heat is the only way

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    So I think the conclusion is that max strength stuff
    does really have much application especially in locations where
    its hard to heat. SuX! May have to drill it out when the time comes.

    Not sure but I'd bet that the steering damper has some parts
    in it that can't get too hot without failing.

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    Re: max strength locktite?

    Quote Originally Posted by akira700 View Post
    So I think the conclusion is that max strength stuff
    does really have much application especially in locations where
    its hard to heat. SuX! May have to drill it out when the time comes.

    Not sure but I'd bet that the steering damper has some parts
    in it that can't get too hot without failing.
    With the right shit, i could get that fucker out in 5 minutes bro

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