help a fellow NESRian?

[Woodsy]

hey,

as most of you know my job offer fell through and i am currently unemployed. I can hear my rear CCT clicking away and it is a known problem for superhawks. the problem is that this will cost me 140 in parts and another 400-500 in labor. i will get the parts but i was wondering if anybody had any experience with this? i am willing to put forth a case of beer for the job and maybe a little cash (money is tight). i have two choices, either get this done, or cut the season short until i get some money. I am in burlington Ma but i will ride a considerable distance if needed. i usually wouldn't ask but i am in a really tough position and the cost of the CCT's alone are a struggle.

[Stoneman]

Do you have a service manual for it?

[ff36buell]

do you have to drop the motor for this? no experience with honda motorcycles.... just asking dumb questions again

[obsolete]

Is that a full tear down?

[Mondo]

hahah i have no experience but i'll do whatever it takes to help

[Honclfibr]

http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ead.php?t=8600

Looks pretty straightforward, I replaced the CCT on my ZX6R and it took about 30 minutes. Twin might take a bit longer but it looks to me like you should be able to do this within an hour or two...

[Honclfibr]

Also, that part should cost like $50

Oh, and it does!

http://www.ronayers.com/BrowseParts....=14520-MBB-013

[Woodsy]

Also, that part should cost like $50

Oh, and it does!

http://www.ronayers.com/BrowseParts....=14520-MBB-013

it does X2. thing is the auto CCTs are the problem so the solution is manual CCT's which are about 140 which still seems rediculous but whatever.

[Woodsy]

do you have to drop the motor for this? no experience with honda motorcycles.... just asking dumb questions again

do not have to drop the motor. the rear CCT can be reached by hand just behind the rear cylinder and the front can be done by removing the tank and the airbox. the superhawk cannot really "drop" the engine as the engine is a part of the frame.

[Woodsy]

Is that a full tear down?

no. just have to find TDC on the front and rear cylinders and then replace the CCT. there is a full write up on the superhawk forum but i have never done this and there is a good chance i will F' this up. most people take the heads off to make sure that they reach TDC Comp. other than taking the tank, airbox, and covers off there is no more motor work.

[Woodsy]

Do you have a service manual for it?

i do but this is a bit outside my skill set and i do not have a place to work on it.

[Catach]

I changed one in an F4i before, honestly it was very easy. If you have tools and a garage I could help.

[obsolete]

If you need a garage we can do it at mine. I've never done one either. If it where my bike I'd do it, but I'm not gonna take on that project on some on elses bike. Ya know? But if you get some one to help you are more than welcome to my garage and tools.

[Woodsy]

I changed one in an F4i before, honestly it was very easy. If you have tools and a garage I could help.

no garage. Honestly what i am looking for is experience so I do not screw this up and a place to work.

[Catach]

well I cant help you with the garage but I have changed one. on the F4i it was basically get to it (kind of a pain in the ass, remove airbox etc) take out 2 bolts, remove stock one, insert new one, set tension according to instructions (dont remember exactly), put everything back together. Nothing done in the motor or anything like that.

edit: wow, just clicked the link to the superhawk site, sounds much more complicated than anything I did....

[Wishbone]

I could help with the garage and tools. Never changed one, but hell never pulled an engine out till this past winter and it went well. Plus I'm outta work right now so I have free time.

[SVRACER01]

i may be wrong but i see no advantage to being at TDC to change the tensioner. the tension on the chain is the same no matter where the cam lobes/pistons are. which means just find em and swap em. if you know where they and can get a wrench on them then you can do it. 2 bolts usually, pull it, put in new and tighten bolts.

[Cerberus]

i may be wrong but i see no advantage to being at TDC to change the tensioner. the tension on the chain is the same no matter where the cam lobes/pistons are. which means just find em and swap em. if you know where they and can get a wrench on them then you can do it. 2 bolts usually, pull it, put in new and tighten bolts.

not so young padawan.
the tension on the slop side of the cam chain (where the CCT is always installed) is non-existant while the lifting ramp of a lobe is opening a valve, but as the bucket is riding the closing ramp of a lobe, it is pushing the cam forward, so unless there is another lobe countering this effect, the cam can spin forward and even jump time if there is no CCT installed. this would be most likely to happen on the intake closing ramp since the exhaust lobe would not be in play at that time.

granted, the load on the CCT is minimal, but it is there.

[FTMS]

If you can't find anyone closer give me a shout if you want to head north. I can give you a hand with it.

[Stoneman]

Fuck, I'd give it a shot. Can't promise anything, but reading around it seems pretty straight forward. A bit more complicated than on my old GSXR that I did one on, but still pretty doable I think...

[SVRACER01]

not so young padawan.
the tension on the slop side of the cam chain (where the CCT is always installed) is non-existant while the lifting ramp of a lobe is opening a valve, but as the bucket is riding the closing ramp of a lobe, it is pushing the cam forward, so unless there is another lobe countering this effect, the cam can spin forward and even jump time if there is no CCT installed. this would be most likely to happen on the intake closing ramp since the exhaust lobe would not be in play at that time.

granted, the load on the CCT is minimal, but it is there.

ahhh yes..didnt think of that.

[smack doogle]

Contact FTMS on superhawk forum. I think he's on here also. He helped me last year with this and check my valves. Great guy and very knowledgable. The job is very simple. I remember it taking longer to get at the front cylinder than actually installing the new CCT's. Really it took less than 45 minutes start to finsh. The valves on the other hand were not fun to check.