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    Dead battery

    Leeza's battery in her SV is dead. Bikes been sitting for a few months or so without being started.
    1. Is it possible that the bike is somehow draining the battery (Ive never had a battery die on me, even over winters and I usually dont even bother to hook up a battery tender). If so, can I find out what?
    2. Is there a way to bring a battery back from death, one of those Auto store dealies, or is it just time to buy a new one?

    I know its the battery, cause I threw the one from my KTM in there and her bike started right up.

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    Re: Dead battery

    A Optimate or similar battery tender with a de-sulfate function may be able to revive it, but if the voltage has dropped too far, might as well toss a new batt in.

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    Re: Dead battery

    Motorcycles batteries are much smaller than car batteries (duh!). Becasue of their size the plates in them are much closer together than in a big old car battery. When a battery it allowed to run down they tend to build up corrosion on the plates (sulfate) it doesn't take much corrosion build up before the plates short out against each other and that is the death of the battery. Can you charge up the battery? Maybe, but it may leave you stranded at an inopportune time. I would reccomend just replacing the battery for the riding season. While your in there buy a battery tender and install the pigtails for the battery tender at that time. Then you can easily plug in the battery tender when needed for storage. Also it allows you the opportunity to plug in an accessory such as a heated vest.

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    Re: Dead battery

    So what battery do I need to buy? I threw the one from my KTM in there, and was gonna leave it, but are there a different kind? Should I buy a Suzuki specific one?

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    So what battery do I need to buy? I threw the one from my KTM in there, and was gonna leave it, but are there a different kind? Should I buy a Suzuki specific one?
    The Book calls for a Yuasa YTX12-BS

    Cross reference that for size, terminal positioning, etc

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    Re: Dead battery

    I've actually had decent luck with the cheapie Walmart batteries. They're cheap enough that if I only get a year out of them, I'm happy. So far as long as I'm good about keeping them on a tender they're holding up.

    The battery display will have a book and a cheasy keypad setup you can use to look up the correct el-cheapie battery to fit.

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    Re: Dead battery

    Well 2 more questions now
    1. She had a YT12A-BS battery in there. could that be why it drained? Is it not appropriate for the bike?
    2. I put my KTM battery in, she plans on riding it that way, it was a different battery I forget the numbers, and my stupid phone didnt save the picture I took of it, but regardless, is it safe to run in there? not gonna damage electronics or the battery?

    From searching online, the stock KTM battery is a Yuasa YTZ10S

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Well 2 more questions now
    1. She had a YT12A-BS battery in there. could that be why it drained? Is it not appropriate for the bike?
    2. I put my KTM battery in, she plans on riding it that way, it was a different battery I forget the numbers, and my stupid phone didnt save the picture I took of it, but regardless, is it safe to run in there? not gonna damage electronics or the battery?

    From searching online, the stock KTM battery is a Yuasa YTZ10S
    That is the other SV battery. What year is her bike. I coulda just picked the wrong year. mainly it's size, and terminal locations. As long at the cranking amps are the same it would be OK. I was looking in a Parts Unlimited book at the shop here.

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    Re: Dead battery

    Hers is a 2002.
    But all good, terminals fit, bike seems to work, guess Ill just leave mine in there for a while.

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Hers is a 2002.
    But all good, terminals fit, bike seems to work, guess Ill just leave mine in there for a while.
    then what are you riding?

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    Riding?

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    Riding?
    yea you know like a motorcycle.. one you sit on and do more than make engine noises...

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    yea you know like a motorcycle.. one you sit on and do more than make engine noises...
    People bother to do that down here?


    Ive been on one ride in months. Good times Florida

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    Re: Dead battery

    Take old one to walmart and match it up with something close for 20 bucks. Or be prepaired to spent close to 80 to 100 bucks.

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    Re: Dead battery

    So more problems, started fine yesterday when I put my battery in, today, she went to ride and it was having trouble starting. Batterys draining quick. I dont know electrical hardly at all, where should I begin?

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    So more problems, started fine yesterday when I put my battery in, today, she went to ride and it was having trouble starting. Batterys draining quick. I dont know electrical hardly at all, where should I begin?
    Does the battery in it match the requirements for the battery is SHOULD have. CCA and such?

    http://www.yuasabatteries.com/pdfs/2...apps_specs.pdf

    YTZ10S Capacity AH: 8.6 Dimensions: L 6 W 3 7/16 H 3 11/16 Wgt: 7.0 Terminal Type: 11 Reg Charge current: 0.9 CCA: 190

    YT12A-BS Capacity AH: 9.5 Dimensions: L 6 W 3 7/16 H 4 3/16 Wgt: 6.3 Terminal Type: 5 Reg Charge current: 1.0 CCA: 175

    Damn close but I would be concerned about the CCA (although the KTM has MORE so )

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    Re: Dead battery

    I believe so, the performance dropped so significantly in 24 hours I'm thinking something is seriously up. Especially considering hers was completely dead, couldnt even turn on the instrument panel when I took it out.

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    Regulator rectifier is done. Replace it and the battery.

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    Re: Dead battery

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    Regulator rectifier is done. Replace it and the battery.
    Is that 100% it? Is there a way to test? I believe what youre saying, but moneys tight and dont wanna drop 80 bucks if its something else.

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    Re: Dead battery

    Doc for once, and ONLY once, does not suck.











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    Could also bea wiring or stator issue richie, but 95% reg/rec

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    I'm gonna go with Degs, Something is causing your battery to not charge and most likely gonna be the Reg/rec

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    Re: Dead battery

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    I'm gonna go with Degs, Something is causing your battery to not charge and most likely gonna be the Reg/rec
    The bikes have been sitting too, but my battery was fine until I put it in her bike, it ran for about 5 minutes, left it overnight, and it was definitely drained a bit today.

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