It has the potential to reduce the effect of the safety system built in to my Suomys. Ask me at the track, conversation for another day/thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
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It has the potential to reduce the effect of the safety system built in to my Suomys. Ask me at the track, conversation for another day/thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
That thread exists already, fyi..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dove
Thought I told you about the Eject system yesterday. It's $60 and you can buy it from the trackside vendor or online.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dove
True story, I ordered one. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
A helmet removal system is merely recommened, not mandated in AMAPro roadracing specifically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dove
Not sure if the dirtbikes require it. Someone else can do that foot work.
EDIT:Link to AMAPro roadracing 2013 rulebookQuote:
Originally Posted by Page 48 of AMAPro rulebook
I think you miss understood him. I read that as his helmet already passes AMA tech, so why does he have to add "features" to it in order to pass a club level tech like LRRS.Quote:
Originally Posted by butcher bergs
EDIT: Correction. You are absolutely right.
Generally speaking, club level tech tends to be stricter on safety items compared to national or world level series. Case in point, find the safety wire in these pics:Quote:
Originally Posted by MHenry600
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I would fully expect an AMA bike to fail tech right off the truck if rolled through at an LRRS, WERA or other club events.
WERA and LRRS yes. not CCSQuote:
Originally Posted by Kurlon
CCS wouldn't notice a complete lack of safety wiring on things like calipers, axles, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Mister Technical Rulebook Person doesnt know the CCS rulebook? :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurlon
like rules 5.2.13 and 5.2.16
I haven't poured through CCS's wiring requirements before, you're correct, brakes and axles don't need to be wired?! I do see the normal oil fill/filters/drain requirement but nothing about axles, brakes, pinch bolts, etc. Of course, if you REALLY want strict rules, I should have referenced USCRA, they want throttle cables wired, banjo bolts, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Still floored that CCS's tech is that light.
CCS only requires oil filter, drain plug, and filler cap. that's all
I had a big long rant about the legends written out but thought better of it. I'll reduce it to this, several mentions of bellypans or other fluid retention requirements have come up in this thread and I'm curious what the track has said about that. I am HUGELY thankful to Eric and anyone else that is working towards improving safety for everyone, this just seems like a relatively easy and cost free (at least for the track) way to improve things a bit.
For what it's worth I don't have a problem with them being there at "our" events. They're fun to watch and my kids definitely get a kick out of them. I just don't appreciate when an issue with their race causes the entire day of motorcycle racing to get shortened as happened last season.
As noted earlier in the thread I believe, the two objections cited to a bellypan on legends cars were:
1) The design and layout of the cars are such that bellypans wouldn't / couldn't be effective.
2) NHMS doesn't want to impose a rule that would only apply to this track.
Guys the entire last year there was only ONE case where a belly pan would have been any form of help, if any.
Ya it put us several hours behind but from my understanding (which could be very wrong) it's not as often to make it a requirement.
I personally met a lot of the legend car racers and their families last year and we even partied with a few of them. Good crew and I really enjoy watching them race.
That was a good night of partying and it was really cool of them to let us tour that Huge hauler of theirs!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
That's funny, isn't the EJECT system an NHMS only thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurlon
I'm not hatin' on the Legends because as has been said, they are good people and are there to have fun just like us.
how do you guys feel about the combined groups for the 1st round of practice?
i like the shorter 1st session since it's so cold, and really like the legend cars going out before us.
but my round 7 incident in round 1 practice has me re-thinking about combining AM and EX practice.
Your incident is also an exception to the rule. Typically experts are doing very clean and secured passes.
Between an Ex and AM, the EX should be the ones that wouldn't like combined practices if anything.
say that to my torn rotator cuff that finished physical therapy 2 weeks agoQuote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
They run races with combined AM and EX, that's different how? If anything I would think the actual races would be worse as you have guys battle for position. In practice if you lose a little in one corner stuck behind an AM you're not going to lose the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim
Not saying having a torn rotator cuff doesn't suck, and to be honest I don't remember the exact situation off the top of my head. Like you said, the morning session are a bit cooler and gives people a chance to loosen up. The second sessions are split. I think it's set up pretty well myself.
hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Kurlon
well for starters, experts dont catch up in a race till lap 6+. i got hit on the standing yellow lap & was done for the day. I tend to ride much slower in practice because i'm trying different things out. so their lines and my lines (at least on session 1) might be very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by MHenry600
LRRS is a one track series. Legends Cars is a US wide series, and the majority of the people participating run at lots and lots and lots of tracks. They make Jim look like a shut in hermit.Quote:
Originally Posted by wiggeywackyo