ATV age increase

[Stoneman]

That sad family is the one championing the cause and using their own plight. I don't know if that's better or worse.

It's rediculous. Look, I know a young child lost their life. For that, I feel horrible. But they got their wishes first when they raised the age, then when they banned 'em all together. Now, this isn't good enough. We'll dig up old ghosts and relive that horror once again because now we want that age raised again...

Education by ALL parties involved would go a helluvalot further than mandates that they don't have the manpower to enforce...

[obsolete]

It's my understanding that in MA, anyone under the age limit can't even ride 'em LEGALLY on your own fuckin' property!

Can anyone verify this, or is it just a ban on public property.

[seth399]

Can anyone verify this, or is it just a ban on public property.

from what I understand, that is correct...even on your own property.

[obsolete]

It's rediculous. Look, I know a young child lost their life. For that, I feel horrible. But they got their wishes first when they raised the age, then when they banned 'em all together. Now, this isn't good enough. We'll dig up old ghosts and relive that horror once again because now we want that age raised again...

Education by ALL parties involved would go a helluvalot further than mandates that they don't have the manpower to enforce...

I agree, i just don't know which is worse. A random person using the death of their child to get something like this passed or using the death of your own child. Both are fucked.

[Chippertheripper]

that family knows nothing of motorized offroad vehicles.

[benVFR]

I think we are heading to the point where all offroad vehicle use will be banned at least in Eastern MA.. and then the fingers will be pointed at mountain bikes. The safetycrat thing is a big deal, but the lack of land & worries about trail destruction will only become a bigger problem as well.

But I don't think there is any point in discussing it.. only thing is to try and vote in the right people. The folks trying to ban things are totally irrational.. they will try to get street motorcycles banned eventually as well... most of them have never touched a bike, heck probably can't even ride a bicycle, yet they know more then anyone here about what is right for motorcyclists.

[obsolete]

I think we are heading to the point where all offroad vehicle use will be banned at least in Eastern MA.. and then the fingers will be pointed at mountain bikes. The safetycrat thing is a big deal, but the lack of land & worries about trail destruction will only become a bigger problem as well.

But I don't think there is any point in discussing it.. only thing is to try and vote in the right people. The folks trying to ban things are totally irrational.. they will try to get street motorcycles banned eventually as well... most of them have never touched a bike, heck probably can't even ride a bicycle, yet they know more then anyone here about what is right for motorcyclists.

Well a huge chunk of mountain bikers are a big proponent of banning vehicles so I think they'll be ok.

[Stoneman]

from what I understand, that is correct...even on your own property.

According to a my buddy that gave me his son's ATV's, you absolutely can NOT ride 'em even on your property. I can't remember the age now, but they're banned all together if you're under that age. Private property falls under the definition of that law...

[obsolete]

My next question if it is illegal, who's gonna catch you?

[seth399]

My next question if it is illegal, who's gonna catch you?

probably a bitchass neighbor who calls the cops to complain

[gadget]

A family that loses a child from something like this, champions a cause in the hope that they can feel better about not providing the child proper protection in the first place.

They desire to feel that their child not die in vain. Unfortunately, they are quite often misguided efforts.

It is much easier to get a law passed against something than it is to create a system for educating people in the proper use of a dangerous piece of equipment.