Help with painting estimate

[xrocket21]

i may paint a 1 bedrrom apt for extra money

living room is like 14x16

bedroom is like 14x18

hallway is 12x4

kitchen is 10x12

bathroom is 6x8

tall ceilings though, like 9 or 10 feet

paint all the walls, and the trim, paint the ceiling and fix some cracks in the ceiling, killz on bathroom ceiling

It would need to be done by MONDAY.

What would you charge? or what would it cost? I have NO idea :/

[Jim]

pittenger is your man for materials

[Pittenger5]

That prick only sells the shit, he has no idea what the labor is worth.

[xrocket21]

yeah?


it would be a lot of painting for one man in one weekend....

[richw]

Prep is the big expense if it needs it

Cutting in the trim if any or taping if its finished woodwork.

Are ther colors ? or wam bam Antque Flat White all over ?

[Stoneman]

Intentionally walk the giraffe & pitch to the elephant?

[scubasteveRR]

for just one weekend that job seems a little big.

And yes richw is correct. the prep is the biggest thing.

Do you need to fill holes and shit too, or just paint?

I do some painting on the side and for that Job I would charge around... $350 for each room that needs painting (NOT INCLUDING PAINT, that’s just labor) and most likely will take you around 8 hours each room to prep, spackle, sand and paint if you are a good painter and can really bang it out! Those rooms are pretty large and the 10 ft ceilings are going to make it quite difficult if you don't have the right equipment.

the Bathroom I'd charge $200 (bathrooms can be a pain in the ass getting around the toilet, sing and stuff) and the Hallway about $150. and would most likely take about 8 hours for both

And I would add these would be prices for friends and family. Painting is no joke. It's not as simple as people think if you want to do it correct and have it look nice.

[Hauptman]

Have the ceilings been painted before? if not then they are going to suck up paint like a sponge. I used to do this when I was a teenager and I still charged at least $200-300 per room. High ceilings like that would require a ladder for cutting in etc... How good are you with a sash brush? Think you'll need to tape off? Like Rich said, color will change things significantly. You'll need a couple tarps, probably 2-3 thick nap rollers for the ceilings, 3-6 rollers for walls. At least 2 good brushes, one sash and one regular. Broom handle for the rollers or an extendable one if you want to drop the money. 6ft ladder.

The trim work and ceilings (depending on if they've been painted before) are going to take you the most time. I would recommend having a friend help you so one can do the walls and the other trim. Also, do the walls first and then go back for the trim. Kitchens and bathrooms suck.

I would say about $1500 in labor.

[elissama]

So a 10x12 room with 9ft ceilings is around 400SF of wall space. (9*10)*2 + (9*12)*2 Below makes it look like quick estimate of more than 1500sq ft (not counting ceiling work or trim) - If paint costs around $600 I would say labor is somewhere around 1 - 2x supply cost.

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Typical costs:
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[Pittenger5]

Oh and dont listen to a fucking word HGTV says. I see more false information on there than anywhere else.

[DuncanMoto]

1st of all that's a big job to get done by monday unless you already started or already have experience. It's also a big job to do on your own with 10 foot ceilings and having never cut in before..... This will be allot harder than you imagined.

Needing "Kills" on the bathroom ceiling leads me to believe you really need to spray bleach solution first and wait a few days on the bathroom. You don't want to Kills over mildew or bleach improperly.

Prep work is 1 full day of work for someone that knows what they are doing.
Ceilings are another day of work.
Walls and trim 1-3 days depending on the amount / type of trim, color variations, etc.

I leave you with a few tidbits that I wish someone told me before I painted over 200 houses in my 20s. I learned this on my way.
1. Get good paints from Pittenger5. Don't try to save on paint cost, it will cost you more in the end in labor and quality. I preferred Ben Moore at the time, but ask Richie.
2. Get quality roller naps. (I think they're made of lambswool) You can reuse if you take care of them. Get a quality roller pan and roller handle. NO HD CRAP!!!
3. Get quality brushes. Ben moore makes some great china bristle brushes.
4. Clean Clean Clean your tools right away. Good brushes are like gold.

[Pittenger5]

I leave you with a few tidbits that I wish someone told me before I painted over 200 houses in my 20s. I learned this on my way.
1. Get good paints from Pittenger5. Don't try to save on paint cost, it will cost you more in the end in labor and quality. I preferred Ben Moore at the time, but ask Richie.
2. Get quality roller naps. (I think they're made of lambswool) You can reuse if you take care of them. Get a quality roller pan and roller handle. NO HD CRAP!!!
3. Get quality brushes. Ben moore makes some great china bristle brushes.
4. Clean Clean Clean your tools right away. Good brushes are like gold.

Preface: Killz = shit. If the ceilings are already painted and in good shape, dont bother priming, just more weight.
1. True, whether you get it from me or not.
2. TRUE, not made of lambswool though.
3. True, cept china bristle is only for oil based paint.
4. True.

[xrocket21]

well, Ill try to answer SOME questions


basically its my old apt, I live downstairs now

Some spackling will be required, but not a lot

I am quite experienced painting, but never charge for it.

I just went up and looked at the apt to refresh my mem, and it would be a bitch,m there just arent a lot of flat surfaces, and theres a shitload of trim and things that would take extra time...

It doesnt have ot be prepped toooo much, its an 1800s house and a lot of the walls are horsehair.

Basically its an old apt that needs a fresh coat before the new tennants

[xrocket21]

Prep is the big expense if it needs it

Cutting in the trim if any or taping if its finished woodwork.

Are ther colors ? or wam bam Antque Flat White all over ?

Curretnly it looks like 2 whites, trim and walls

[xrocket21]

Preface: Killz = shit. If the ceilings are already painted and in good shape, dont bother priming, just more weight.
1. True, whether you get it from me or not.
2. TRUE, not made of lambswool though.
3. True, cept china bristle is only for oil based paint.
4. True.

theres mold on the ceiling in the bathroom, hence the kilz

[xrocket21]

Have the ceilings been painted before? if not then they are going to suck up paint like a sponge. I used to do this when I was a teenager and I still charged at least $200-300 per room. High ceilings like that would require a ladder for cutting in etc... How good are you with a sash brush? Think you'll need to tape off? Like Rich said, color will change things significantly. You'll need a couple tarps, probably 2-3 thick nap rollers for the ceilings, 3-6 rollers for walls. At least 2 good brushes, one sash and one regular. Broom handle for the rollers or an extendable one if you want to drop the money. 6ft ladder.

The trim work and ceilings (depending on if they've been painted before) are going to take you the most time. I would recommend having a friend help you so one can do the walls and the other trim. Also, do the walls first and then go back for the trim. Kitchens and bathrooms suck.

I would say about $1500 in labor.

this sounds right


I dont think im gonna do it


It would be soooooo much to squeeze in 1 weekend

[Pittenger5]

theres mold on the ceiling in the bathroom, hence the kilz

Killz is a brand name for primers. Near as I know they do not have a mildewcide.
Use water/TSP/a little bleach and scrub.

[xrocket21]

binz maybe? I cant remember

I remember mold killing paint that had a z in it

[xrocket21]

ahhhh, stain blocker

[Pittenger5]

Yes. Stain blocker. That doesnt block stains.

Let me say this again. Killz = garbage.
Bin is an excellent product when used properly. Putting it over mold is not properly.
Mold is NOT a stain. No primer is going to kill whats there. Some have mildewcides to help prevent it, but there is no primer that will kill whats there.

[Jim]

Oh and dont listen to a fucking word HGTV says. I see more false information on there than anywhere else.

why the fuck are you watching HGTV

[Pittenger5]

why the fuck are you watching HGTV

1. My parents watch it at dinner time now and again.
2. I like that "what can xxx dollars buy" show
3. I like to know what false information is being given so I have a response prepared for work the next day.

[xrocket21]

ehhh fuck it


I just called and said no :o

[Jim]

richie, i hear there's some good shows on Lifetime too

[Pittenger5]

richie, i hear there's some good shows on Lifetime too

You dont hear, you know. Cause you watch it, you fairy.