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He basically just doesn't use it anymore, but doesn't quite want to just give it away, so He said I can just use it as long as I want
Have a roll of 0.035 wire I think, roll of flux core, and the tank is pretty full.
I need to buy a helmet though, any suggestions?
(he kept his auto dimming cause he still has a stick welder, and his back up was shitty so I figured Id just buy one)
First project is making a metal frome for my ps3 wheel with my sti seat, then I want to make an office chair out of the other seat, then I need to make a tow hook for my car.
I am pumped. I havent really mig welded since highschool
Just get something auto-tinting. Its worth spending the extra money.
nice I'm looking to take a welding class this fall
Definitely auto dimming. Makes welding 100x easier, especially projects like you're talking about getting into. I really miss welding.
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The auto dimming helmets are nice,but I have always preferred the passive helmets. Maybe because that is what I learned with. I have both but only use the auto helmet for tacking stuff and teaching. I have felt it in my eyes after a long day of welding with an auto helmet, and that scares me a little
I prefer a passive helmet with the big 4.5"x5.25" inch window with one of these gold lenses. http://www.airgas.com/browse/product...ct=RAD64005040 it would be a fraction of the price of an auto helmet,and the bigger lens really improves visibility. Just my $.02.
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I think I'm gonna jump on this one
http://www.harborfreight.com/blue-fl...met-91214.html
I weld for a living don't like the auto darkening hoods much better off with a regular Hood with a shade 11
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I'm with ya I have a auto Hood you can have if you want it
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I have one of those lincolns. Good little welders. From the pic he has it setup for MIG so you won't be able to use your .035 as it will be too big. On these ones when you set it up for MIG the carrier sleeve gets replaced and you can screw it up trying to run stuff with flux through it. Wire is dirt cheap. I think I pay like 7 bucks a roll for it. Flux also makes a mess of anything fine unless you're really careful.
I use an auto darkening helmet myself and love it. Haven't really had any eye issues BUT I compromise. I have a lens in it that keeps it darker then a standard auto at all times. Means I still need brighter then normal light to line up unless I want to flip the helmet up but works well and I can see easier then with an all dark lens. Some of those auto helmets.... yeah...
Oh, from personal experience with that model.... if you use an extension chord get a real heavy gauge chord. That particular welder seems real sensitive to having even slight loss from an extension chord. Sounds stupid but if you try to use a cheap extension chord or if you plug it into a loose outlet it doesn't tend to work as well. Other welders I have and have used don't seem as sensitive. Go figure. Doesn't make much sense to me as any power loss through the extension chord due to heat or resistance should be too minimal to make any difference...
Thanks for the tips
Not sure what you mean by "set up for MIG"....
It's a mig welder...
It has different size tips, I have a couple that came with it. Dad said to go 0.005 high so it doesnt bind. So I think it has a 0.040 tip in for the 0.035 wire.
Am I understanding you wrong? I need all the help I can get, so I appreciate it :o
Yeah, they are tricky with how they market it; it's a flux core welder that supports a MIG conversion kit to make it full MIG. Sometimes they box the conversion kit for that one with it. Most MIGs already come with the gas setup and are made without flux coated wire in mind. Some, like this one, come setup for flux coated wire but with the option to convert it to full MIG.
The difference is that you either use flux coated wire or you use gas. MIG is Metal Inert Gas - the gas acts as the shield that the flux normally would act like. Most people though think MIG just means it is wire feed. That isn't true - in the flux wire setup it is nothing more then a glorified arc welder that can do a little thinner metal more easily then a stick arc welder. Add the gas kit and lose the flux wire and now you can do some nice thin welds with a lot less splatter and crap to clean after - yeah, the flux makes a mess.
On using a wider tip - I wouldn't. You want a good clean electrical contact between the tip and the wire it is feeding. If you are using NON flux wire with the gas setup like you should be then you won't have any binding problems.
Hope this helps man!
Mig is mig
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Holy shit, that was all really good info. I definitely thought a wire feed welder was a mig, and you could do it with or without gas. Thanks man!
As soon as i score a helmet, Ill post some pics of how my welds are coming.
Any advice on how to go about chosing wire speed, current, gas flow, etc?
Yes, MIG is MIG, but flux is NOT MIG. MIG is Metal Inert Gas. Flux doesn't need and should not be used with Gas. He showed a picture of the welder. I am familiar with that welder and know that it comes setup initially as a flux core welder without the gas valve, regulator etc unless you get the kit. Obviously as the picture shows, the gas/MIG kit is already on it, So when he mentioned that he intended to use flux core wire with it I pointed out the difference between a welder that uses flux core wire and one that is a true MIG. There is a big difference and while you could potentially use flux core with a MIG welder it could gum it up as well and more then that there is just no point to it as you are then left with a bunch of flux slag to clean off after which kinda defeats the point of a MIG.
There is a definite difference between flux and MIG.
If you don't believe me go ahead and read what the manufacture of this has to say: http://www.lincolnelectric.com/knowl...sfluxcored.asp
From that page for those who just want the pertinent parts...
You think the decision-making process is over when you are hit with yet another question - which welding process will you use? . . . GMAW (MIG) or FCAW (flux-cored)? If you are like most novice welding operators, you may be confused as to the differences of these two choices.
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GMAW as identified by the American Welding Society, is also popularly known as MIG (Metal Inert Gas) and uses a continuous solid wire electrode for filler metal and an externally supplied gas(typically from a high-pressure cylinder) for shielding. The wire is usually mild steel, typically copper colored because it is electroplated with a thin layer of copper to protect it from rusting, improve electrical conductivity, increase contact tip life and generally improve arc performance. The welder must be setup for DC positive polarity. The shielding gas, which is usually carbon dioxide or mixtures of carbon dioxide and argon, protects the molten metal from reacting with the atmosphere. Shielding gas flows through the gun and cable assembly and out the gun nozzle with the welding wire to shield and protect the molten weld pool.
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FCAW per the American Welding Society, or flux-cored for short, is different in that it uses a wire which contains materials in its core that, when burned by the heat of the arc, produce shielding gases and fluxing agents to help produce a sound weld, without need for the external shielding gas. We achieve a sound weld, but in a very different way. We have internal shielding instead of external shielding. The shielding is very positive and can endure a strong breeze. The arc is forceful, but has spatter. When finished, the weld is covered with a slag that usually needs to be removed. A "drag" angle for the gun is specified which improves operator visibility. The settings on the wire feeder welder are slightly more critical for this process. Improper technique will have results that are magnified.
I know you mentioned that you weld for a living. I don't but I have been welding for WELL over a decade and own an acetylene gas welding setup, a flux core welder, a stick arc welder and a MIG welder. You probably have been welding longer then me and own more then me so I dunno, maybe you didn't see the flux wire part?
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oh and Greg, I know tone can be hard to gauge on text so for the record I'm not trying to be a smart ass, condescending or rude in response to your 'mig is mig' - just trying to figure out where the confusion is lol. When I try to be rude I usually put things like 'Doc is a whiny bitch...' Right doc?
Oh, and on wire speed and everything - if you open the side lid there is normally a chart to get you started. Once you start doing it enough though you should just get a feel for it. Thicker steel, more heat means more amps etc... you'll get it. For gas flow I run mine at about 22cfh. Probably wouldn't go much lower, but that is just me and I don't really have definite proof on that - just what I have always done. *shrug*
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Oh, and I wasnt planning on running the flux core with gas. I know you run the flux without gas.
I have a roll of flux core, and a roll of non flux.
Pretty much when he bought it, I told him to get the gas right off, because I hear people rant all the time how shitty flux core is. He didnt have it very long before he called and said how shitty the flux core was and that he was getting the gas kit for it lol
Sweet!
hey, I found a wicked useful pdf on welding from lincoln. I can PM it to you if you want. Lots of technical crap in it. More then I care to read but it might interest you.
Is that your garage in the background btw? Looks like a sweet setup. More pics? I built a shelf very much like that in mine; big, ugly and wicked freaking strong! I have a thread on here I started a long time ago on the build that I should stop slacking on and update lol.
Enjoyed reading this thread as I just purchased a used 3200HD (rebranded Lincoln 135 sold at Home Depot) last month.
Mine didn't come with a regulator or bottle and I'm using flux core wire.
I'm about to use it to put a 6" extension on a kickstand for a bike I raised up. Will post my results!
Yeah, thats my garage! Just moved from a 1 bedroom apartment, and bought a 4 bedroom house with a 3 car garage!!!!!!!!!!
Only lived there a month, so still organizing! It already looks better than these pics.
Future Brother in law helped me build the bench the weekend we moved in!
i want to build a shed to get the mountain bikes, 4 wheelers, lawn mower, rototiller, and kayaks out of the garage so we can put the vehicles in there!
It's all Good info I run all Miller I run my wire speed at 235 but we are doing two different things. That's a nice looking garage wish I had one I'm stuck with a little shed for now LOL and if you want that Hood let me know and ill try to get it to you
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Nice! Congrads on the house that rocks!!!! Always a lot of work but man, I would never look back! Renting gets to be a drag...