Marines..

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The Army calling the Marines dumb, it's cute. It's like the Coast Guard calling the Navy gay.

[toocrazy2yoo]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5
Will they let me fly a jet? If so ... In.

That is such a scary prospect.

I dunno about that. You peeps that ride bikes on tracks (or god forbid, the street) at 150 are doing bolder, far more critical shit on a far tighter line than even a a military pilot. Only thing I can think of with even a close comparison MIGHT be dropping a plane onto a flight deck, but even THAT is automated. Ain't shit about riding a bike fast that's automated except the ambulance that takes ya to the hospital if you F-up. Biker's chips are on the line as much as a pilot.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5
Will they let me fly a jet? If so ... In.



I dunno about that. You peeps that ride bikes on tracks (or god forbid, the street) at 150 are doing bolder, far more critical shit on a far tighter line than even a a military pilot. Only thing I can think of with even a close comparison MIGHT be dropping a plane onto a flight deck, but even THAT is automated. Ain't shit about riding a bike fast that's automated except the ambulance that takes ya to the hospital if you F-up. Biker's chips are on the line as much as a pilot.

I have taught a few fighter pilots the BRC and they say riding a bike is harder than flying their Jet..

[SRTie4k]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5
Will they let me fly a jet? If so ... In.



I dunno about that. You peeps that ride bikes on tracks (or god forbid, the street) at 150 are doing bolder, far more critical shit on a far tighter line than even a a military pilot. Only thing I can think of with even a close comparison MIGHT be dropping a plane onto a flight deck, but even THAT is automated. Ain't shit about riding a bike fast that's automated except the ambulance that takes ya to the hospital if you F-up. Biker's chips are on the line as much as a pilot.

Uh, right. Riding a bike on the track in full leathers and you fuck up, what are the chances you're going to die? Flying an F/A-18 below radar and you fuck up, do you think your chances are better you'll live than a guy on a motorcycle wearing full leathers racing around a closed course?

You're insane.

[nilez]

Subject: MARINE ENTRANCE EXAM
Time Limit: 3 WKS
Name: _____________________________

1. What language is spoken in France? English... if it weren't for the Americans and Brits, they'd be speaking German.

2. Give a dissertation on the ancient Babylonian Empire with particular reference to architecture, literature, law and social conditions -OR- give the first name of Pierre Trudeau. If it weren't for the Americans, the Iraqis living in the land of Ancient Babylon would still be under the rule of a tyrant... and his name is Joseph.

3. Would you ask William Shakespeare to
___ (a) build a bridge
___ (b) sail the ocean
___ (c) lead an army or
__X_ (D) WRITE A PLAY!!!!

4. What religion is the Pope? (check only one)
___ (a) Jewish
_X__ (b) Catholic
___ (c) Hindu
___ (d) Polish
___ (e) Agnostic

5. Metric conversion. How many feet is 0.0 meters? 0 is not a number, therefore, it can have no unit of measurement.

6. What time is it when the big hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 5? 35 minutes until bedtime at the Neverland Ranch :

7. How many commandments was Moses given? (approximately) 2x5

8. What are people in America's far north called? Canadians
___ (a) Westerners
___ (b) Southerners
___ (c) Northerners

9. Spell: Bush, Carter, and Clinton
Bush: _______Nuculer_________
Carter: ______murdered by Johnny Utah________
Clinton: _____Lewinski________

10. Six kings of England have been called George, the last one being George the Sixth. Name the previous five: One, Two, Three, Four, Five... mother and father clearly had no creativity...

11. Where does rain come from?
___ (a) Macy's
___ (b) a 7-11
__X_ (c) Canada (depending on the weather system)
___ (d) the sky

12. Can you explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
___ (a) yes
___ (b) no
__X_ (c) Maybe

13. What are coat hangers used for? abortions?

14. The Star Spangled Banner is the National Anthem for what country? U.S. of A.

15. Explain Le Chateliers Principle of Dynamic Equilibrium -OR- spell your name in BLOCK LETTERS. a 1/4 full 2 liter of coke. NILES

16. Where is the basement in a three story building located? the bottom.

17. Which part of America produces the most oranges?
___ (a) New York
___ (b) Florida
__X_ (c) Canada
___ (d) Wisconsin

18. Advanced math. If you have three apples, how many apples do you have? tree. I had to axe a mathematician.

19. What does NBC (National Broadcasting Corporation) stand for? Nuclear, Biological, Chemical... which has now been renamed CBRN for Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear.

20. The Cornell University tradition for efficiency began when (approximately)?
___ (a) B.C.
___ (b) A.D.
__X_ (c) trick question

* You must correctly answer three or more questions to qualify

* If you are stuck on any questions, you may ask the monitor for help.

How'd I do?

[nilez]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5
Will they let me fly a jet? If so ... In.



I dunno about that. You peeps that ride bikes on tracks (or god forbid, the street) at 150 are doing bolder, far more critical shit on a far tighter line than even a a military pilot. Only thing I can think of with even a close comparison MIGHT be dropping a plane onto a flight deck, but even THAT is automated. Ain't shit about riding a bike fast that's automated except the ambulance that takes ya to the hospital if you F-up. Biker's chips are on the line as much as a pilot.

uhh... automated?

There are three things men enjoy more than anything else in life. Taking a good shit, enjoying a great orgasm, and flying. Naval fighter pilots enjoy all 3 every time they land on a carrier.

[DaSarge]

So a college kid makes a better leader than a SGT or SSG who goes officer? Just doesnt sound right to me.

I'd trust and respect someone more who has been in the military longer than a day rather than an hour.


Officer is the way to go because they make WAY more than us poor enlisted folk do! I guess that it really doesnt make a difference if you go enlisted or straight to officer because you wont be a combat medic anyways.

Wheres Adrenilinechick shes a medical officer in the air force i believe.

[ssg]

Hey leave me out of this...

[Evil_Weasel]

what ever you do...stick to the airwing.

they don't say "swing with the wing" for nothing. much better standards of living than the rest of the corps.

i was aviation ordnance for 4 years. good times.

your recruiter will lie

bootcamp SUCKS

you will be deployed at some point

the food is horrid everywhere

you are on call 24/7...365

if you want it easy, join the air force... i never saw a happier group of uniformed people than when we worked with the air force.

[BlueEyes]

If you're a slut then ok, if not get used to being called one. Default is that you are sleeping with any guy you talk to.

This is, unfortunately, true. Point in case:

I recently was selected as a First Sergeant and put on my E-7 (at the age of 32). It's something I worked for since starting full-time: I am the VP for our local Enlisted Association, started and chaired a Junior Enlisted Council for our Wing, was top volunteer on Honor Guard during my three years as a volunteer, and sat on multiple committees. A close friend clued me in on the rumor going around about how I got my new job: "she's been sleeping with the pilots and officers on base."

My ex-husband put on his E-7 one month before I did. He's 33. He's a great NCO but hasn't done any of the above and beyond stuff I've have. Yet I haven't heard one person say he slept his way to the top.....

[obsolete]

On average mustangs are better officers. Sometimes you get a shit bird but usually not. More often is the case that you get a 23 year old straight out college who thinks he knows something, which the oppsosite is always true.

Best advice I've ever heard given to a butter bar, shut your fucking mouth and let the guys who know what they're doing work. That was from an old Commander of mine to a new Lt. of mine.

Blue Eyes, it's very sad and very true. It's an up hill battle for women in that world. The other side of that coin, 91.37% of woman I've met in the military were in fact pretty slutty. But then again I think a lot of women at that age are. :-)

[Pittenger5]

I have taught a few fighter pilots the BRC and they say riding a bike is harder than flying their Jet..

Good, so can you put in a word for me so I can go to flight school? You have to know some people.




As long as you didnt piss them off preaching about gear

[Mondo]

On average mustangs are better officers. Sometimes you get a shit bird but usually not. More often is the case that you get a 23 year old straight out college who thinks he knows something, which the oppsosite is always true.

Best advice I've ever heard given to a butter bar, shut your fucking mouth and let the guys who know what they're doing work. That was from an old Commander of mine to a new Lt. of mine.

I didn't come straight out of college thinking I was LT Winters from band of brothers.....and i think a lot of guys I comissioned with are the same way

You know everyone makes the assumption officers are worthless pieces of shit....especially 2LT's. And this proves my point. On average a 2LT usually recieves more training than most enlisted men do, at least in the Army. Example, my buddy is just clearing post down at benning....he has taken Stryker leaders course, Mech Leaders Course, Squad designated Marksman course, Airborne, Airassault, MLOC, BOLC II, Infantry School, pathfinder, and now Ranger. Thats well over a full years worth of training. And he's been an officer a little over a year. That doesnt include the 4 years of ROTC in college as well as being SMP in the guard the whole time.

Your telling me he's a worthless piece of shit? Then throw in the fact he's a PT stud and a humble guy, but a great leader. A few bad officers (most of the time in non combat arms branches) can give the whole officer corps a bad name. I don't know how it is in the airforce and the technical jobs that you guys do, but the ground pounding officers in the army and marines are def not the typical "stupid fucken LT". Sure we make mistakes, but so don't a lot of NCO's....and tell me when you were a brand new enlisted guy you didnt fuck up at all? I've seen plenty of NCO's do stupid things, and it seems a lot of them lack the professionalism (im talking military customs and cuortesies) associated with being a NCO in the army (or maybe it was just that way at benning cause it was a Tradoc post) but I wasn't that impressed with the standards many of the training NCO's held themselves too.

There are good and bad on both sides...i guess thats the point im trying to make.

just my opinion.

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Difference is Mike, when I as an E-1 made an oops it was an oops. You're telling me an LT's oops is weighted the same? Not even close, they are given more responsibility so they’re oops causes a much bigger problem. It would behoove them to learn how shit works before trying to make changes or add input. There’s a reason people say stupid fucking LT, cause they do not understand the system they are put into and usually try to implement change or attempt to override the NCO’s / Senior NCO’s that have seen the system grow, change and progress.

Just like college Mike, you can have years and years of education but it doesn't mean you can operate effectively in the field. It’s not just pay envy that makes people dislike new officers. There’s a long history of the same attitudes.

I've seen plenty of NCO's do stupid things, and it seems a lot of them lack the professionalism (im talking military customs and cuortesies) associated with being a NCO in the army (or maybe it was just that way at benning cause it was a Tradoc post) but I wasn't that impressed with the standards many of the training NCO's held themselves too.

Dude, u sound just like a new LT and / or some one who just came out of leadership school.

[Mondo]

It's obvious and LT's oops arent weighted the same but still. It's stressed to new officers (at least in the Infantry) that you can't come in and change shit right away, and don't try to change stuff that already works. And I don't think a lot of them try to do that. At least I didn't. Another thing is working with your PSG. My psg now was my PSG back when I wasn't an officer, and we get along great! We understand how eachother work and we have mutual goals as to where we want the platoon to go.

As far as me coming out of a training school...sure...w/e you want to say.
I don't go looking for salutes, I don't like doing it...I think officers who do that are stupid and power hungry. I have a NCO in my platoon that will light up enlisted guys who just walk by me and don't salute...and I don't say a word and never asked him to do that. He isn't "old school" either...he is just a professional. I try to act as a professional too when dealing with superior officers, and high ranking NCO's. A professional NCO will recognize that a officer is still a officer, and a good officer will recognize and respect a NCO.

[obsolete]

Then maybe you're a good officer. I have no clue, but from the amount homoerotic tales you've told I'm sure your "men" are very happy with you.

I'm just telling you where this feeling comes from and the reason it exists. Just because officers are stressed to do things doesn't mean they do.

[Mondo]

[eboos]

Difference is Mike, when I as an E-1 made an oops it was an oops. You're telling me an LT's oops is weighted the same? Not even close, they are given more responsibility so they’re oops causes a much bigger problem. It would behoove them to learn how shit works before trying to make changes or add input. There’s a reason people say stupid fucking LT, cause they do not understand the system they are put into and usually try to implement change or attempt to override the NCO’s / Senior NCO’s that have seen the system grow, change and progress.

Just like college Mike, you can have years and years of education but it doesn't mean you can operate effectively in the field. It’s not just pay envy that makes people dislike new officers. There’s a long history of the same attitudes.



Dude, u sound just like a new LT and / or some one who just came out of leadership school.

Likewise, if a prior enlisted officer thinks that because "he's been there" that he knows everything the problems could be magnified.

The issue is with the quality of the person going into these positions. If they are able to work within the system as it is designed, everything will work out. An officer of higher rank then that of a 2nd LT will state mission objectives and an executable plan. 2nd and 1st LTs lead platoons which are broken down further into squads and fire teams lead by NCOs and Staff NCOs. It is they that carry out their duties and meet the objectives to accomplish the greater objectives that lead to mission accomplishment. Officers, especially junior officers, need to respect the experience of their NCOs, and enlisted personel need to respect the rank of their officers.

[BMFR6]

well, based on this thread... I would recommend the Army. If we use Doc as the example, apparently all you have to do is post on internet message boards all day while the Marines (and Spence) are overseas protecting his right to do so. I have a new respect for all the Navy docs I served with and hung with us everyday. Glad we aren't a department of the Army.

[Mondo]

So its the Marine Corps and DaSarge over there fighting?

jeeze should give him the MOH for being by himself.

I mean the guard obv doesnt deploy or anything at all...the two deployments my unit has done (and possible third coming up) were just ficticious I guess

[DocCola]

Massive Post:

Just a quick back round on me Jackie. I've been active for 4 years in the Army as a combat medic/lpn. (68WM6). I was deployed with a scout unit in Iraq and was in the shit with them. Saw quite a bit of action, did some crazy things. Doesn't really mean much other than I am no desk jockey or paper pusher.

I'm also in the process of putting in my packet to go Officer. There is still a lot up in the air because I'm not 100% sure what I want to do (stay medical career or go avation...only two things that interest me), but I'm hoping to get everything set in the next couple months...who know.

The Army has a VERY good PA program. PM me for info.

Quoted for truth. My PA in Iraq was awesome. Prior Combat Medic (E6) too.

These 3 Marines were sitting in a bar.

One of them says..."Hey I betcha I can take that girl up stairs, drink that bottle of whisky, and finish her off in 1 hour" So they say "Okay prove it"

He comes back down 59 Minutes later, bottle of whisky empty and girl thoroughly pleased.

So the next Marine says "I can beat that! I can take those 2 girsl up stairs, drink 2 bottles of whisky, and finish them off in 30mins" So they say "Okay prove it"

He comes back down 29 Minutes later, bottles of whisky empty and girls thoroughly pleased.

The last Marine says "I can beat both of you! I can take those 3 girls up stairs, drink 3 bottles of whisky, and finish them off in 15mins" So they say "Okay prove it"

So 15 minutes goes by, then 30, then 45, then over an hour.

So they go upstairs and check on him and they see three bottles of whisky empty, 3 girls thoroughly pleased, and him sitting in the corner shivering! And they ask "What happend?"

He said "I was about to get going when some guy kicked in the door, booted me in the nutz, drank the three bottles of whisky, fucked the hell out of those girls, then jumped out the window and yelled "AIRBORNE"'

I laughed my ass off, then sent it to all my Army/Marine & Air Force buddies. Bet they will laugh to.

PS- yeah, I'm airborne (and air assult)!!!

Wow, that was lame...I'm sure that joke was a big hit in ranger school...your instructor must've told you that one, then I'm sure all you nasties with the wrinkled uniforms, and squished in covers had a good ole laugh....

I really hope your not that butt hurt by that.

already saw those links didnt know if you guys knew any "buddies" that did recruiting.. i feel like every recruiter i talk to gives me the runabout and avoids my questions

Jackie, if you want I would get you in contact with my recruiter who is a pretty cool guy. Just put my cousin in the Army. Also, I could talk to some of the research officers around here (Natick Labs) and see if they have any advice for you. If you have a chemistry and bio back round, this would be a great place for you. And it's a damn good duty station. If you have any questions feel free to get ahold of me, you know how. I'm sure I have some sort of help I can give.

Best of luck!

[Chippertheripper]

As a former marine, I would strongly suggest joining the coast guard. You'll thank yourself for the next four years. If I could've spent all my time in the field I'd think differently. But the day to day bs of life in the corps just wasn't worth it. I realize this is blasphemy to any and all marines and it really depends on the unit and command, but I didn't have a good time. (and I was on top of my game too)

[eboos]

As a former marine, I would strongly suggest joining the coast guard. You'll thank yourself for the next four years. If I could've spent all my time in the field I'd think differently. But the day to day bs of life in the corps just wasn't worth it. I realize this is blasphemy to any and all marines and it really depends on the unit and command, but I didn't have a good time. (and I was on top of my game too)

That is exactly why I went on MSG (embassy) duty. My first duty station was MCAS Beaufort, SC. It was the most boring place on earth in the mid 90's. MSG duty taught me to explore the possibilities that are out there, and the rest of my time in the Marines was awesome.

[elissama]

It's obvious and LT's oops arent weighted the same but still. It's stressed to new officers (at least in the Infantry) that you can't come in and change shit right away, and don't try to change stuff that already works. And I don't think a lot of them try to do that. At least I didn't. Another thing is working with your PSG. My psg now was my PSG back when I wasn't an officer, and we get along great! We understand how eachother work and we have mutual goals as to where we want the platoon to go.

As far as me coming out of a training school...sure...w/e you want to say.
I don't go looking for salutes, I don't like doing it...I think officers who do that are stupid and power hungry. I have a NCO in my platoon that will light up enlisted guys who just walk by me and don't salute...and I don't say a word and never asked him to do that. He isn't "old school" either...he is just a professional. I try to act as a professional too when dealing with superior officers, and high ranking NCO's. A professional NCO will recognize that a officer is still a officer, and a good officer will recognize and respect a NCO.

Right... you never puffed up like a peacock while training to be a 2lt.

[obsolete]

Right... you never puffed up like a peacock while training to be a 2lt.

Oh snap!