Mitchell Report - who's on the list???

[kermita]

Looks like the Mitchell Report comes out this afternoon. Anyone want to take a guess as to who's on it?

Top of my list: Roger Clemens

[Pittenger5]

I hope this forces the game to really clean up its act, but other than that, I dont think naming players is going to accomplish anything. At least the people that DIDNT cheat can finally be recognized. But all stars, MVPs, Cy Youngs are all supposedly on the list, it just taints all the records. Plus, 50-60 out of 1400 or so players in the time frame covered is like 1% of players, it just brings unwarrented negative attention to the game. Blah to everything.

But my vote is Bonds, Giambi, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens, (God I hope not, but Im afraid Papi) and LOTS of no names

[Manny]

I hope this forces the game to really clean up its act, but other than that, I dont think naming players is going to accomplish anything. At least the people that DIDNT cheat can finally be recognized. But all stars, MVPs, Cy Youngs are all supposedly on the list, it just taints all the records. Plus, 50-60 out of 1400 or so players in the time frame covered is like 1% of players, it just brings unwarrented negative attention to the game. Blah to everything.

But my vote is Bonds, Giambi, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens, (God I hope not, but Im afraid Papi) and LOTS of no names

Wow. Going out on a limb there with Bonds, Sosa, Mcgwire and Giambi.

[highsider]

I;m not much of a baseball fan, so forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but why do they just not have drug testing mandatory? Its mandatory in all pro fighting sports, so how hard would it be to draw blood once a month from pro ball players?

[Pittenger5]

Wow. Going out on a limb there with Bonds, Sosa, Mcgwire and Giambi.

I make my predictions like I ride my motorcycle, safe and conservative.

[Pittenger5]

cause the Union represents a lot of people who are very rich and dont want to be drug tested. So lets recap, Union, very rich people, dont want it. You try to convince them otherwise.

I;m not much of a baseball fan, so forgive me if this is an ignorant question, but why do they just not have drug testing mandatory? Its mandatory in all pro fighting sports, so how hard would it be to draw blood once a month from pro ball players?

[TheIglu]

Unions are once again making the US a great place!

[highsider]

cause the Union represents a lot of people who are very rich and dont want to be drug tested. So lets recap, Union, very rich people, dont want it. You try to convince them otherwise.

Well, again drawing from pro fight sports, its not the league/organization that dictates the drg testing, its the state sanctioning bodies. The Nevada State Athletic Commission tests all of the pro MMA fighters in Nevada (Las Vegas), whether its a UFC fight, EliteXC, PRIDE, whatever.

I dont see why the Federal Government and/or state gov's couldn't do the same thing, without saying word one to the union.

[Pittenger5]

Because baseball makes the states a WHOLE lot more money than any of those. And fans love the longball. Money rules everything, dont forget this. I wish it was easy, I wish they did it a long time ago. Baseballs my favorite sport and I hate this whole asterisk debate and stuff, I wish it could've been pure. Oh well

[highsider]

I am sure that baseball makes a lot more money than pro fights, but if people - specifically Congress - are going to get all bent out of shape about players using steroids, the answer seems simple .

It will be interesting to see who is on this report, and what sort of backlash they have from their fans.

[Karaya One]

(post #2)

Brady Anderson

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Manny Alexander

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Rick Ankiel

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Jeff Bagwell

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Barry Bonds

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Aaron Boone

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Rafael Bettancourt

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Bret Boone

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Milton Bradley

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David Bell

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Dante Bichette

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Albert Belle

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Paul Byrd

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Wil Cordero

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Ken Caminiti

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Mike Cameron

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Ramon Castro

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Jose Canseco

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Ozzie Canseco

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Roger Clemens

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Paxton Crawford

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Wilson Delgado

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Lenny Dykstra

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Johnny Damon

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Carl Everett

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Kyle Farnsworth

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Ryan Franklin

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Troy Glaus

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Rich Garces

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Jason Grimsley

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Juan Gonzalez

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Eric Gagne

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Nomar Garciaparra

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Jason Giambi

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Jeremy Giambi

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Jose Guillen

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Jay Gibbons

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Juan Gonzalez

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Clay Hensley

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Jerry Hairston

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Felix Heredia, Jr.

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Darren Holmes

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Wally Joyner

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Darryl Kile

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Matt Lawton

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Raul Mondesi

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Mark McGwire

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Guillermo Mota

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Robert Machado

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Damian Moss

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Abraham Nunez

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Trot Nixon

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Jose Offerman

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Andy Pettitte

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Mark Prior

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Neifi Perez

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Rafael Palmiero

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Albert Pujols

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Brian Roberts

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Juan Rincon

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John Rocker

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Pudge Rodriguez

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Sammy Sosa

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Scott Sc hoenweiis

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David Segui

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Alex Sanchez

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Gary Sheffield

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Miguel Tejada

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Julian Tavarez

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Fernando Tatis

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Maurice Vaughn

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Jason Varitek

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Ismael Valdez

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Matt Williams

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Kerry Wood

[Manny]

where did that list come from?

[Pittenger5]

Guapo!?! Cmon, no way he was on the juice, unless it was like, pure stuffing. And VTek, I may cry, hes the best.
But if that list is correct its like I thought, a couple stars everyone figured anyway, and a whole lot of borderline players that I cant blame trying everything they can to stay in the game and make some money

[Degsy]

Trot Nixon, that's a a sad thing. Johnny Damon, too.

[Degsy]

WOW! 'TEK?

Is that the real list?

LOL eric gagne. How bad was he WITHOUT the juice?

[Pittenger5]

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/1...ell.report.pdf

[Pittenger5]

LOL eric gagne. How bad was he WITHOUT the juice?

In the mitchell report Theo asked someone about Gagne and the guy said he was only the pitcher he was because of juice. Durability was going to be an issue without them. Scary he still took an chance on him knowing that.

[sveesix]

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/1...ell.report.pdf

Player accusations start on PDF page 175 (127 of the report).

[benVFR]

Varitek is not on the "real" list. Gagne is.

There's a friggin book on Clemens.

[JohnnyV]

Yea I was worried because earlier today a bogus list came out posted by WNBC which contained Varitek and Tavarez, neither of which are on the real list.

[CMG241]

Friggin Nomar- flash back to his Sports Illustrated cover flexing his new found muscles. No Manny, Ortiz, Lowell or Beckett!!!!

[KB]

really. It's part of the job.

KB

[benVFR]

You start digging and there are just crazy articles out there from the past few years talking about how hard these guys worked out..

SI practically worships Clemens and his "workout" routine.