2018 NYST Pig Roast

[Teamdineen]

I'm exhausted!
What a fantastic weekend except for ALL THE RED FLAGS.

Everyone who was there what's up bitches! It was awesome. Greatest people, so so riders hahah!

[Degsy]

Awesome time. Sunday was a red flag shitshow. "Monster" group got screwed every single session because the "experts" crashed in every single session.

Some of the people there were certainly not "awesome". Still had a great time though.

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[Zolden]

What a great weekend and a hell of a good time in all the after track day party activities. I was in intermediate NYST Saturday and we had a flag or two but nothing major. Bit of a cold day and I mounted up brand new Rosso Corsa II's that morning so I never really got the confidence to push it. Downtown Friday was a lot of fun, I fall in love with it by session 6 or 7 and then know I won't get to ride it for another couple months.

I spy that orange RS250 next to you guys that I was creeping on when I rode through the pits. Sexy bike.

[Teamdineen]

What a great weekend and a hell of a good time in all the after track day party activities. I was in intermediate NYST Saturday and we had a flag or two but nothing major. Bit of a cold day and I mounted up brand new Rosso Corsa II's that morning so I never really got the confidence to push it. Downtown Friday was a lot of fun, I fall in love with it by session 6 or 7 and then know I won't get to ride it for another couple months.

I spy that orange RS250 next to you guys that I was creeping on when I rode through the pits. Sexy bike.

That wasn’t my bike nor was I pitted there but I do know that bike was being a bitch until Sunday. Then she was sweet.
Lots of two stroke race smoke from all those guys that were pitted over there.

[dhawks]

The RS250 ended up running beautifully. Just had an air pocket in the cooling system. We went through a full bleed routine and she ran nice and cool the rest of the day.


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[sdog30]

It's weird all the crashes were Sunday and in expert. Usually Saturday is the more full day at the pig roast. And it's usually intermediate that's fucking up the schedule all day.

Usually all the other festivities makes up for it, though.

[Teamdineen]

It's weird all the crashes were Sunday and in expert. Usually Saturday is the more full day at the pig roast. And it's usually intermediate that's fucking up the schedule all day.

Usually all the other festivities makes up for it, though.

Turn 4 Expert High Side Sunday.
Me and my riding buddy decided to bump because the trains in Monster were getting crazy.We weren't trying to set any lap records or win the track day so we rode Monster group with a bunch of friends. We just were having fun till it wasn't. We stayed out of Expert because All I heard from the "Experts" was how every single one of them runs a 1:31. SO...

We sat gridded for 7 minutes , I know because I have a clock on my speedo. There was a delay because there was spotted Deer around wheelie hill. This was my first session with the Expert group. I was slotted as the sixth bike to get on track. The five bikes ahead of me went from zero to full on by the incline of the uphill of the straight. I was surprised because of the long delay. It was like a warm up lap race. Well guess what. Turn 4 full lean ,full throttle ,lead bike slid to full lock then flipped 10' in the air. Both bike and rider flew into bike #2 and 3,4,and 5 were within feet of each other. I was expecting mass carnage. The second bike a ZX10 was hit in the left crushing the front fender stay into the fork slide. It scared the Crome polish wrecking the fork. Crushed all the bodywork left side. He didn't go down amazingly nor did anyone else. I have some on video but it's hard to see the flip. I will post when I have some time.

No one was hurt. But that session was total trash.

BTW no one was even close to a 1:31. I'm not sure how those guy tell time.

[Zolden]

Turn 4 Expert High Side Sunday.
Me and my riding buddy decided to bump because the trains in Monster were getting crazy.We weren't trying to set any lap records or win the track day so we rode Monster group with a bunch of friends. We just were having fun till it wasn't. We stayed out of Expert because All I heard from the "Experts" was how every single one of them runs a 1:31. SO...

We sat gridded for 7 minutes , I know because I have a clock on my speedo. There was a delay because there was spotted Deer around wheelie hill. This was my first session with the Expert group. I was slotted as the sixth bike to get on track. The five bikes ahead of me went from zero to full on by the incline of the uphill of the straight. I was surprised because of the long delay. It was like a warm up lap race. Well guess what. Turn 4 full lean ,full throttle ,lead bike slid to full lock then flipped 10' in the air. Both bike and rider flew into bike #2 and 3,4,and 5 were within feet of each other. I was expecting mass carnage. The second bike a ZX10 was hit in the left crushing the front fender stay into the fork slide. It scared the Crome polish wrecking the fork. Crushed all the bodywork left side. He didn't go down amazingly nor did anyone else. I have some on video but it's hard to see the flip. I will post when I have some time.

No one was hurt. But that session was total trash.

BTW no one was even close to a 1:31. I'm not sure how those guy tell time.

The track record is 1:28 by someone supernatural. "Everyone" in expert running 1:31 is embellishing... Other expert group riders will you tell you there are plenty of folks riding mid 40's. They just want expert riders to be very comfortable with close passing, consistent and able to hold your line in situations that call for it.

[Degsy]

Not surprised at all by that description of the "expert" group. I'll leave it at that.

Biggest headshaker of the day was the guy who bought an F150 then gave someone about $5gs to fuck it up by lowering it and putting cholo wheels that went about 12" outside the wheelarches on it. It looked like something Cheech Marin would drive. He couldn't get it through a gap in the pits I could have driven a school us through. Then just to put the nail in the coffin he let us know just how loud his ships air horn was....several times.

Lo and behold it was his buddy who crashed on the 1st lap of our final session to end our day. Oh, and I got passed by someone on the red flag because "you cant go that slow on the red flag, they might need to get the ambulance out". At that point I was glad the day was over.

I saw more people that ever going balls out on lap 1 than I ever have before. I'm someone who is content with 3 or 4 sessions a day, so it didnt really bother me that much, but I feel sorry for the guys I was with, one of whom was on his 1st track event. Sunday was the worst track experience I have ever had, including the one time I crashed at a trackday.

There is an atmosphere there that crashes are an acceptable part of the trackday experience and that should not be the case. The starter in the pit area repeatedly stating the rules isnt enough. I like Greg and I like his outlook and style and I love the track, but I think it's time for him to turn into a hardass next season and start cracking some heads together, because Sunday was definitely one of those days when the event was out of control.




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[Zolden]

Saturday was not very bad at all in the standard intermediate group, considering the amount of people we only had one lost red flag session after a few laps. I had to pack up and head out before noon Sunday but that was sort of part of my plan since I figured I and the day might be a hungover mess.

I managed 12 days up at NYST this season and from what I can tell, usually the technicality of the track and rider error causes individual crashes. If the passing rules are followed there are rarely bike on bike incidents, but every day is different...

[Teamdineen]

The track record is 1:28 by someone supernatural. "Everyone" in expert running 1:31 is embellishing... Other expert group riders will you tell you there are plenty of folks riding mid 40's. They just want expert riders to be very comfortable with close passing, consistent and able to hold your line in situations that call for it.

This is meant to have sounded silly and not to be serious by those "Experts" . Maybe one or two have raced but none have a real racer's mentally. I am saying this as well n how to ride safe and be straight on line and in control. They were all BALLS OUT LOOK AT ME IM THE MAN. trying to be cool. Great fun off track but VERY DANGEROUS ON TRACK!

[maxim_X]

Sorry about your crash fest. I haven’t done a proper track day in years, is that normal for the fast group?

[theducman]

I was not present at this event and I have not been to nyst since 2013 with fishtail, but I have been told the same thing. My buddy who lives in ny used to go regularly to nyst. Until one day when two "coaches" tried to out do each other and crashed, forcing my friend off track and down. He was furious as one can imagine. I want to do a few day's there but I got out of the racing world so I won't get hit by people who come in hot and run out of talent.

[DucatiGuy]

Our intermediate group had a red flag every other session. I think we ended Sunday with 3 in a row. Me and buddy just stayed on track with the 125's and went out with the next intermediate group, as did a few others.

[ScottyJ]

There is an atmosphere there that crashes are an acceptable part of the trackday experience and that should not be the case. The starter in the pit area repeatedly stating the rules isnt enough. I like Greg and I like his outlook and style and I love the track, but I think it's time for him to turn into a hardass next season and start cracking some heads together, because Sunday was definitely one of those days when the event was out of control.


Sadly NYST is going down hill fast. I used to have a blast out there. You do have the crashing is ok mentality and is acceptable by NYST. I stopped going because some of the "expert" riders think they are Marc Marquez. Meaning it's ok to wipe you out. Getting too dangerous out there at the speeds we're getting to. The last time I was there one of the "experts" was bouncing between expert and intermediate. Same guy almost took me out in expert and almost took my buddy in intermediate the same day. Unacceptable. Just not fun for me out there anymore. I'd rather ride w. TTD or Penguin have fun and improve my skills w.out one of those a holes prepping for the 300GT race wiping me out. This could be part of the problem. The 300 guys prepping for the 300GT think a track day is a race. As far as the rules not being enough. I think it's also a case of the flagger's not knowing the rules or not radioing in if/when someone is doing something wrong.

[Teamdineen]

YouTube

Finally had some time to do this . Anyone interested this was the shitshow of NYST regulars trying to set lap records and be the track day superstar.

This was after a 10 minute break due to a deer on the track. Cold tires and still the possibility of a deer pooping out on track. Right from the get the bikes in front of me were at a silly pace for a warm up/ sighting lap.
The fourth bike in front of me will do the unthinkable. Look at the bike he hits when I get close. I can't believe he stayed up.

Even with the superhero's there I had a blast and can't wait to ride again.
BTW So happy TTD is going back in 2019 . No doubt I will ride both days both times . His days are so much more well sorted with in control riders.

[sdog30]

How did he crash on the straight part of the track?

[Teamdineen]

How did he crash on the straight part of the track?

Trying to “Race “the ZX10 . Riding over his head, ran wide into the dirt and was playing hero showing me how to ride his track fast

[sdog30]

Trying to “Race “the ZX10 . Riding over his head, ran wide into the dirt and was playing hero showing me how to ride his track fast

So then it didn't really have anything to do with cold tires or from sitting for 10 minutes. He just rode over his head.

[Teamdineen]

It had a lot to do with it. He was pushing to hard on cold tires and couldn’t hold a line

Besides that there was a stoppage due to deer .
Just passed turn 1 gets blinded all the way past wheelie hill. Chill and make sure it’s safe.

Almost every session there was a red flag because of over the top riders.

I hate missing time especially if It should have been avoided.

Bottom line is that if anyone who is a track day rider just take it easy on the first few laps. ITS NOT A RACE. I’m not perfect and I’ve done stupid things on a track but I try to learn from my mistakes and Learn from other peoples mistakes too. Some days the track is angry so just take it down a click. That all.

I do see how im coming across Righteous. It’s not my intention. I’m just trying to get a point across and hopefully keep everyone up and healthy!

[sdog30]

Definitely not arguing that it's dumb to crash 3 turns into a first lap. I've done it myself and didn't even think I was pushing that hard. Just saying cold tires are usually the cause of tucking the front or maybe high siding.

[Kurlon]

Definitely not arguing that it's dumb to crash 3 turns into a first lap. I've done it myself and didn't even think I was pushing that hard. Just saying cold tires are usually the cause of tucking the front or maybe high siding.

Based on my fabulous demonstration in T6 on the warm up lap, on good'n hot tires, I'm going to say cold tires are not the usual cause. Excess input at the wrong time, yes.

[Teamdineen]

Based on my fabulous demonstration in T6 on the warm up lap, on good'n hot tires, I'm going to say cold tires are not the usual cause. Excess input at the wrong time, yes.

Unfortunately I have crashed on cold tires. Turn 4 NHIS 1996 April Rookie Race warm up lap. Highside KO. Needless to say I didn't get my license that weekend.

So that said I am a resident expert on track stupidly

[Kurlon]

Unfortunately I have crashed on cold tires. Turn 4 NHIS 1996 April Rookie Race warm up lap. Highside KO. Needless to say I didn't get my license that weekend.

So that said I am a resident expert on track stupidly

Hah, T4, cold tires, warm up lap... On a GS500E! High sided it no less! Game on, who can top our stupidity?

[sdog30]

Looped the start

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Game over