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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by G21forme View Post
    Just think it's strange that a 600rr snaps a 520 chain when there are thousands of 636's on the road that are doing just fine.
    alot of 1000's are running them to with no issue as well, but people see nesr as the center of the motorcycle universe and if one person has an issue with something on their bike then it must be true and will happen to everyone elses bike...regardless of the countless other examples elsewhere that prove otherwise

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    is it time for the sales pitch? no? ok...

    ehh fuck it - the boston moto shop has 520 kits!

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    alot of 1000's are running them to with no issue as well, but people see nesr as the center of the motorcycle universe and if one person has an issue with something on their bike then it must be true and will happen to everyone elses bike...regardless of the countless other examples elsewhere that prove otherwise
    i'm pretty sure no one has said anything like that..
    My entire perspective on it is a risk vs reward thing.
    TO ME, it is too much risk of early/total chain failure for zero reward.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    What is the benefit of switching to a 520? Cost and and less rotating mas?

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Lightening unsprung, rolling mass (i.e. wheels, chain, etc) is much more effective than reducing sprung weight. Even if it is only a pound, there is a difference. Perhaps minimal, but it is still there. Zero reward may be going a little far. To us mortals it may not mean much, but if it can take a tenth off a lap time, there is a reward.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyB View Post




    EK 520 mvxz X Ring Motorcycle Chain features: 9000 lb tensile strength




    I too have snapped a 520, D.I.D. i believe, due to poor rear wheel alignment I presume. Boy did that make a mess..

    I love how they try to make the EK look twice as strong as the others haha...

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by klepsta View Post
    Lightening unsprung, rolling mass (i.e. wheels, chain, etc) is much more effective than reducing sprung weight. Even if it is only a pound, there is a difference. Perhaps minimal, but it is still there. Zero reward may be going a little far. To us mortals it may not mean much, but if it can take a tenth off a lap time, there is a reward.
    you are right.
    zero benefit may be going too far, but unless someone is a racer needing to shave a tenth off a lap time, its just a 'bragging rights' mod

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    I don't think a 520 would make up a 10th.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    i'm not a racer so i wouldn't know, but i can see the argument that the reduced rotating mass can increase responsiveness in acceleration

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitt View Post
    I love how they try to make the EK look twice as strong as the others haha...
    haha, yeah i saw that. you should really pay attention to units of measurement, scale, start values on the axis...etc. they totally "Al Gore'd" it.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    i put a 400 chain kit on my turbo busa....so what's the big deal?

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
    ** this opinion does not reflect the opinion of NESR, its management or staff
    Well it represents my staff....


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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Well it represents my staff....

    Meaning it's smaller and weaker?

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    His opinion!

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    What is the benefit of switching to a 520? Cost

    initial cost, yes

    overall cost, no, 520 is the most expensive per mile

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by Cerberus View Post
    i'm pretty sure no one has said anything like that..
    My entire perspective on it is a risk vs reward thing.
    TO ME, it is too much risk of early/total chain failure for zero reward.

    -fin-
    I'm not saying that it represents NESR at all, just the majority of opinions on here are based off that. SO people who just frequent this site might be under the impression that a 520 is not sufficient for a 1000cc motorcycle, while there are other forums specific to this guys bike (1000rr.net, 1000rr.us) that have about 2/3rds of the members using a 520 kit with ZERO issues at all. Many of them race with it, and many also use it for daily street/track day use. People a lot of times see what is written here and believe that it is the ONLY way based on what is told to them from here without doing research.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    My new avatar is perfect for this thread..Good read

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    My new avatar is perfect for this thread..Good read
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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    If you go over to 1000rr.net (a specific forum for your bike) about 98% of the people there run them with no issues (on race bikes, and street bikes) and have not had them snap.
    Since these are street machines we're talking about, out of that percentage, how many can say they've gone over 20,000 miles on a 520 setup?

    10%? 15% maybe?

    Reliability suffers with a 520 setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post
    Since these are street machines we're talking about, out of that percentage, how many can say they've gone over 20,000 miles on a 520 setup?

    10%? 15% maybe?

    Reliability suffers with a 520 setup.
    I've got 35,000+ so far on my 530 setup with no visible sign of wear yet, my original 525 barely lasted 15k

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    I'm surprised how many care whether they get 20k out a 520 set-up or 30k out of a 530, most people don't don't put that many miles on there bikes.

    I look @ it as a wear and tear item like tires.

    Oh and I've had no problems w/520's on my bikes.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    Quote Originally Posted by bergs View Post
    Since these are street machines we're talking about, out of that percentage, how many can say they've gone over 20,000 miles on a 520 setup?

    10%? 15% maybe?

    Reliability suffers with a 520 setup.
    Ill find out for ya later, ill post it as a question.

    And spending 220$ for a new chain and sprocket every 20,000 miles doesnt sound to bad to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mondo View Post
    Ill find out for ya later, ill post it as a question.

    And spending 220$ for a new chain and sprocket every 20,000 miles doesnt sound to bad to me
    Only suggesting that steel sprockets are better for longevity. I'm certain the 520 chains can go the distance unless your name is Jay Holland.

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    Re: 520 Conversions

    agreed, supersprox makes a nice setup tho alluminum carrier with replaceable steel teeth

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    I keep forgetting about that.

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