Well, it was bound to happen sometime...

[nt650hawk]

Rob, sorry to hear. It was not your fault. no listen to me it was not you r fault. Say it with me it was not your fault....

Track the DB down and the locals deal with him. I bet he had a purdy mouth.

[mzdagrl]

Ok so some have said that the driver may or may not be at fault.

What about the fact he had an un-plated unregistered trailer on the road?

I also like the idea of "driving to endanger" which I believe is punishable by jail time in NH (could be wrong though). He had not a care in the world that he could have killed my husband and the father of my child.

Asshole.

[highsider]

Make the police report, and tell them the truth - the driver of the truck pulled out of a side street, failed to yield the right of way to oncoming traffic, and caused about $1000 worth of damage to your bike.

They will likely assist you in tracking the idiot down.

I dont know the law in other states, but in Vermont you are required to stop and render appropriate aid.

[mzdagrl]

Make the police report, and tell them the truth - the driver of the truck pulled out of a side street, failed to yield the right of way to oncoming traffic, and caused about $1000 worth of damage to your bike.

They will likely assist you in tracking the idiot down.

I dont know the law in other states, but in Vermont you are required to stop and render appropriate aid.

yeah, he stopped asked if rob was ok, and then took off like a bat out of hell. with an unregistered trailer. sorry im still grumpy about this....

[OreoGaborio]

sorry im still grumpy about this....

Really? Are ya sure?


Rob, that totally sucks, bro... Take Chris' advice. Report it & give the cops every detail you can think of.

[KillBill]

Rob - just a suggestion......there are a lot of riders here who cover a lot
of miles/roads. Perhaps if you gave a description of the vehicle / type of trailer someone
could help?

[capt1014]

He was coming out of a side street turning left across my lane of traffic and I missed him, it is a small community so i have been looking for his truck so i can find out his plate number and at the very least report it. Without that information i just have to tell the Police that i fell over...

Unfortunately there really isn't anything you can do police wise other than report the guy driving without plate.

You didn't hit him nor did he hit you, so there was no accident.

But still, you should have thrown rocks at the guys truck!

[FlynGSXR1k]

I am wondering the same thing.

Either way he's a dick and I hope you find him.

In NH he can be charged with leaving the scene. Some states (like FL) if there is no physical contact between the actual vehicles there can be no charges.

(At least that was the NH law in 2006 when I was forced to total my Tacoma because a big-rig decided to come into my lane)

Good luck finding him man...and definately file a report!

[obsolete]

Any LEO's confirm the whole no contact no accident rule? I'm kinda curious still.

[drop]

This does raise a question I've been wondering about. If a vehicle does something stupid and in the course of avoiding their stupidity I crash my bike without damaging their car or any other property except my bike, is the other car required to stop and exchange papers?

the other car absolutely is required to stop and exchange papers. points (SDIP/insurance/license) are typically applied to the driver *responsible* for the accident, not necessarily the one physically involved in it. the problem is that the undamaged-yet-still-involved vehicle often leaves the scene of the accident due to opportunity or sheer oblivion.

i'd file a police report and would angle it toward the driver leaving the scene of an accident involving property damage. by asking if you were "ok" the pickup driver clearly acknowledged that you had been in an accident. they absolutely should have stopped and exchanged information even if they personally didn't feel they were liable.

[Kitt]

I don't know why peopel are telling him to file a report... It will only go down as an accident of his (in the 3 states I've lived in)... Since there was no contact - and no 3rd party witnesses.

[FlynGSXR1k]

I don't know why peopel are telling him to file a report... It will only go down as an accident of his (in the 3 states I've lived in)... Since there was no contact - and no 3rd party witnesses.

That may be a disadvantage in MA (no fault??) but for sure in NH you bet your ass my Insurance company sent a PI to the trucking company's HQ in Winconsin to try to get to the bottom of my accident, and even though my insurance paid me cuz he left the scene, my premiums never took a hit, and NH (being a by fault state) I was determined to be not-at-fault.

Just helps to have lawyers as friends in each state I guess

[Kitt]

That may be a disadvantage in MA (no fault??) but for sure in NH you bet your ass my Insurance company sent a PI to the trucking company's HQ in Winconsin to try to get to the bottom of my accident, and even though my insurance paid me cuz he left the scene, my premiums never took a hit, and NH (being a by fault state) I was determined to be not-at-fault.

Just helps to have lawyers as friends in each state I guess

wow... that is impressive. maybe he should do it up then?!

hopefully Rob or Karma can hold this dude accountable...

[crowspeed07]

yeah, he stopped asked if rob was ok, and then took off like a bat out of hell. with an unregistered trailer. sorry im still grumpy about this....

So had the trailer been registered then your husband wouldn't of crashed? Hate to sound like the dickhead but that's the way people drive and you need to be ready for it. He made no contact with the bike he did stop and ask if he was ok. Good luck with the report etc... hopefully the cops in your area do their jobs better then the MA state police did when i was hit on my bike and the guy took off.

[mzdagrl]

So had the trailer been registered then your husband wouldn't of crashed? Hate to sound like the dickhead but that's the way people drive and you need to be ready for it. He made no contact with the bike he did stop and ask if he was ok. Good luck with the report etc... hopefully the cops in your area do their jobs better then the MA state police did when i was hit on my bike and the guy took off.

No, if the trailer had been registered, he would have been able to get a plate number. Now because the asshole was doing something illegal in ADDITION to driving like an idiot, we have no recourse.

And asking if you are OK while your bike is still on the ground is not acceptable when it is the other person's fault that you crashed in the first place, and they know it.

[WordTooYoMamma]

Wirelessly posted (Tilt: HTC-8900/1.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.11) UP.Link/6.3.1.20.06.3.1.20.0)

hunt him down tip his truck and trailer over

[xbootlickx]

In MA u need to report it if the damage is over 1k .. even if you do the police dont send anything to the insurance company.. if u decide u want to claim it then do that on ur own.. chances are they will find you more than 51% without the other persons information. As for being at fault it was the other persons responsibility to ensure that it was safe to enter your lane of travel. you had the r/o way and would not have been cited or found at fault.
My wife was cut off and grabbed a fist full of front brake.. same scenario but the guy just kept going while she lay in the road.. luckily she wasnt hurt and the sliders protected the bike. had i seen it happen i would have gone to jail for sure.
im glad your ok .. the bike can be fixed

[xbootlickx]

the other car absolutely is required to stop and exchange papers. points (SDIP/insurance/license) are typically applied to the driver *responsible* for the accident, not necessarily the one physically involved in it. the problem is that the undamaged-yet-still-involved vehicle often leaves the scene of the accident due to opportunity or sheer oblivion.

i'd file a police report and would angle it toward the driver leaving the scene of an accident involving property damage. by asking if you were "ok" the pickup driver clearly acknowledged that you had been in an accident. they absolutely should have stopped and exchanged information even if they personally didn't feel they were liable.

100% agree

[obsolete]

Another side of this would be if you report it and found at fault would his points go up for an at fault minor collision?

[mzdagrl]

Another side of this would be if you report it and found at fault would his points go up for an at fault minor collision?

NH=no "points" record, but no points

[highsider]

I'm not sure why people are so quick to believe this "No contact no fault" rule - I've never even heard of it, and it doesn't make a lick of good sense.

There are plenty of crashes caused by someone driving like a fucktard, in which the conscientious driver avoids the collision with the other driver only to hit something else. Just because a driver doesn't smash into someone who violates the law does not make them at fault. Using that logic, it would be smartest just to ram into people who cut you off.

In Vermont at least, no such rule exists and I would still urge reiobard to report this incident to police ASAP.

[Punjistick]

I had an accident once in my car where an 18-wheeler moved over into my lane. I was forced to swerve or be run over and I struck the rear fender of other vehicle. My insurance called it a phantom driver since I wasn't able to get the plate of the truck that technically caused the accident. The truck just kept going like nothing happened.

I know it's not quite the same scenario but I wasn't found to be at fault and I didn't have to pay my deductible. This was in MA however so I don't know if this applies in NH.

Maybe your insurance will fix damage and waive deductible?