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A posthumous congratulations to #58 . . . wish the circumstances were different.
What do you think about this decision? I'm happy with it but I have mixed feelings.
I'll reserve judgement until I see the final name. It is a honorable gesture, but it might come off as cheesy in the same way the TD Bank Boston Garden does.
or Mazda raceway at Laguna seca.
its a good gesture, but a rider died there last year and the track wasnt named after him. other than popularity, what makes him any more special.
maybe just call it the Misano memorial raceway in honor of ALL fallen riders everywhere
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Kinda like the wise guys. You get points for getting out of jail? No, you get more points for not going to jail in the first place. Points for getting killed by overtaxing cold tires in a wad-up that took other guys out? What, they should re-name Planet Earth for the dead racer? Same thing with the Indy car guy. Like a saint they've painted this guy. But he screwed up too and took other guys out at around a deuce and a quarter. You're either good enough or you ain't no good at all. That's a rule from Naval Air, flight decks and a slew of other dangerous shit that gets doods killed. Lessons written in blood, they should apply to racing, too. Shee-it, anyone can get hisself kilt. Trick is to live.
Just because a dood bought hisself a farm racing, he's a hero? Trying to figure that culture out, but I haven't yet. It's cool though.![]()
-Pete
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Whattya mean am I kidding you? What, you have sympathy for the guy? Too bad the guy got kilt, but how many threads, dozens, hundreds, a thousand right here on these pages where guys got killed on the street or track and peeps here dissected their mistakes and learnt a lesson from it? I don't see a lot of sympathy for other peeps that got killed, why is this world class racer that screwed up a bunch of other guys in one lousy crash a big hero? He ain't even been around all that long to begin with and he already got himself killed and wrecked other guys to boot. Sorry, dood, we all get what's comin' to us when we do this stuff, good, bad, indifferent. That goes for jumpin' outta airplanes and rock climbing and other shit too. This shit, even on the street (or especially), is life and limb, chips on the line and everyone knows it, we do it anyway and that's it. Just because a guy at the top flamed out and wadded his bike and bought himself a farm, he's St. Christ the Biker in a hand basket? It's too bad, but even guys that get killed racing, if you could bring em back they could tell you all the ways they screwed up and got kilt. You would, I would, even Degsy and Doc would. No one's looking for sympathy after a wad-up. We ain't that kinda peeps because if we were, we wouldn't be doin' bikes or skydiving or even leaving the house in the morning, we'd be doing soup kitchens. Gimme a break.
But just for the record, you know where to find sympathy, Oreo-Dood?
In the dictionary. It's right there between "shit" and "syphilis". And so it goes. Love ya, dood, but this deification of peeps that messed up is a little nauseating.
Marco wore a kilt? I thought he was Italian?
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-Pete
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The only thing out of place in his two screeds was punctuation. Normally when that stuff gets posted, there isn't any, and sometimes no spaces between words as well.
If you're going to crank up the crazy lever, at least complete the job.
I hav no opinion as to whether they should name a raceway after Simoncelli, and he certainly isn't a "saint" but c'mon man, the guy died at 24.
Sure, he's not the first and won't be the last, but can't we all agree that his was a life of great promise in his field cut too short?
What shit did I talk about him? He races, he gets killed doing what we ALL do. Riding a bike. Just because it's a higher level, he gets Sainthood?
Oreo, Oreo (Bonasera, Bonasera), go get a book called The Right Stuff. Thomas Wolfe wrote it. It's about the doods that lived through and and the doods that died starting up the jet age, space travel, the guys that went to the moon. Read it. It's a description of folks that crave risk. It'll put this in perspective for you. At the roots, it's about folks just like you and me right on up to them. One and all, we're trouble junkies that if we didn't have a little risk (or a lot) in our existence, life on this here rock would be a boring ride. That's all I'm saying. I'm sure Marco was a beast. I'm also positive he'd be embarrassed at all the fake sympathy and deification that came after his passing. It's an insult to his memory. Next thing you know, peeps that run things and never had a scratched knee off a bicycle spill are saying, "Ban racing, make it "safer", slow down the bikes, the cars, ban skydiving, ban this, ban that. THAT's the shit that sympathy brings on. We all know what can happen, when it does happen, it's a T/S deal. Don't let what we do get watered down because someone got smoked.
Hey, you can't handle that, go ride a tricycle. Whaddya want from me? It's all true though, every word. And you know it. Peeps that ride bikes that go fast got bigger balls than 95% of the rest of the human population and they ain't lookin' for sympathy if it goes bad. Daaaat's it!
Wait....he's 54??? Is that a typo?! He sounds like he's 15 and from Jersey. BTW your aruement is a lame one! No one is making him out to be a saint. Marco lived his life doing what he loved, and did it till his death. His death was a tragic accident witnessed by millions of people. Of course it has a huge effect on people. It touched me deeply because I'm a passionate race fan and rider. I have more of connection with racers than I do with anyone in the space program.....aw fuck it!!!
I don't think they should name the track after Marco.
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Please go sell crazy somewhere else....we are all stocked up here.
Maybe you should do a little research before you open your (figurative) ignorant trap. He crashed, yes, but he didn't take anyone out. He was trapped under the bike and it took a very strange path back across the track due to that fact. On top of that, he HAS been around for a while. He's a former 250 world champion, and was a front runner in the premier class.
I wasn't trying to take anything away from Marco, I was just pointing out that it may be disrespectful since another rider died there last year and yet there was no mention or thought given to naming a track in his honor.
I loved Marcos flair, he reminded me of the rossi of old. Back when he got off his bike and went into the port o potty after the race.
You're a real fucking asshole, and that's saying something coming from me.
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I also want to say that even though I don't watch indy, to place the blame solely on weeden is just plain blind stupidity. They were all racing on a track they had no business being on. The track promoted such tight racing that a minor mistake by anyone would have brought deadly results. And it did. They all took the calculated risk to race there, and someone paid the price. I'm sure there were plenty of indy car fans that were affected by his death.
To say that Marco had it coming is just a douche thing to say. I can venture a guess what you've got coming....
He was a KID that had more talent in one curly lock of afro than you, your kids and your kids, kids, kids will ever have.....combined.
He was living the life many here dream of and he did it all with a huge grin. Regardless of the conditions or the results.
If you don't understand why people are affected by this so much, that's fine. It just means that you either weren't a fan of Marco, or not a fan of racing....which is odd since you're on here.
Find a way to relate, or just shut up.
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i remember the good old days when you could find drugs everywhere..
Fake sympathy?
Some people happened to enjoy Marco's style both on and off track and while I did not sob, I know I have been deeply saddened and shed real tears when I heard the news of his passing. You obviously don't "get it" but if you wanna pass judgement on the many thousands of people who have been also deeply affected by his death then so be it.
I think what you have trouble grasping is the concept that many people can feel a connection with one person. In this is case, a top shelf world class motorcycle racer who rode hard on track and spoke straight-up off track.
I cannot speak for others but I had been watching Marco Simoncelli for years and to watch him making his way to the top all that time then have that all disappear in an instant has been something that has been very challenging to wrap my head around right up to the moment I type this.
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I'm no star fucker. I can't tell you a single stat about the Bruins, and don't watch the Pats, but I do follow bike racing. In a class stacked with standouts, Marco stood out as the guy who could do it all but would still stop to help a little old lady across the street. It was his Everyman done good personality that endeared him to people, including me. Read a random post in a random tribute thread for proof of this. He acted the same way you or I would if we rode in the big leagues.
Still, I understand what you're saying, and i agree in a number of ways, but it's too soon for criticism you crazy bastard, too soon. People need time to grieve.
regardless of a person's character (good or bad) there's a certain degree of respect that must be given when referring to the deceased. and if u dont have anything positive to say, bite your tongue & keep your opinions to yourself.
Not trying to agree with twocrazy, so don't lump me in with him, and not trying to derail the thread but...
Are we naming race tracks and stadiums and theaters after the thousands of soldiers that have died across the pond defending our rights, freedoms, and safety? Are there hundreds of blogs, articles and front page stories for each of them?
While the passing of Marco is very very sad at such a young age, and I am truly sorry for the loss his family, friends, and the racing community has to endure. I think the over-sensationalism of these deaths by the media is an insult to those that die allowing us the freedom to even enjoy motorcycle racing.
I don't think the track should be named after him, maybe a memorial of sorts someplace within the track compound to remember those that were lost at the track. But now it just seems to be getting out of hand.
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