Don't try to run from this cop

[GNTurbo6]

‪Donnie Williams - 2nd run‬‏ - YouTube

Dude has got some skills

[SVRACER01]

awesome

[DuncanMoto]

WOW!

[SRTie4k]

So I won't try to get away at the local go-cart track, I'll just punch it.

[Rossco]

I wonder how many floorboards he goes through in a year....

[Expat]

I wondered where all the traffic cones went!
The Jap gymkanha guys would beat him!!

[union]

I wondered where all the traffic cones went!
The Jap gymkanha guys would beat him!!

They arent riding Harleys

[SRTie4k]

How is that type of maneuverability actually useful in practice? I can't imagine many people that run from cops duck into the nearest hedge maze.

[gadget]

How is that type of maneuverability actually useful in practice? I can't imagine many people that run from cops duck into the nearest hedge maze.

Something tells me that he is not a one trick pony and that this is most likely a good indication of the rest of his motorcycle related skills.

[e30addict]

Impressive skills. Usefull for the city. Wonder how he is at speed

[noxin]

How is that type of maneuverability actually useful in practice? I can't imagine many people that run from cops duck into the nearest hedge maze.

Say he's chasing some dickbag that causes an accident and puts a disabled vehicle directly in the motorcycle's path. Knowing the exact limits of the motorcycle's turning ability can possibly save his life.

[Woodsy]

imagine what he could do on a police spec BMW

[Sheppo]

that was nuts.. I loved it. Motorcycle Ballet

[nhbubba]

I love these videos so much. Spent hours watching them when I thought I could afford an ST1300. Just insane. Listen to those floor boards dragging. What really blows my mind is they do it without moving from the seat at all. His upper body isn't even that far off center. I would expect getting up on the pegs and working your body weight as much as possible would help.

How is that type of maneuverability actually useful in practice?

I cannot for a moment imagine that that level of familiarity with the machine, clutch and throttle are not "actually useful in practice".

I'd actually argue that this is more useful that track experience for their line of work.

[OreoGaborio]

What really blows my mind is they do it without moving from the seat at all. His upper body isn't even that far off center. I would expect getting up on the pegs and working your body weight as much as possible would help.

Countersteering and counterweighting is a powerful thing

This was essentially a multitude of consecutive swerves... and a swerve is defined as two consecutive countersteers... leaning your body in the direction of a swerve is counterproductive because it slows down the transitions. Keeping your body upright and steady allows you to use countersteering to transition the bike from side to side more quickly.


With that said, don't think for one second that I think I could go out there & do that on that bike

[Rada]

Last year I attended a Fishtail school and a bunch of these guys showed up with their motor patrol bikes. After a little work with the instructors they were hauling the mail around NHMS. They were a pretty cool bunch of guys and were sucking up the knowledge like sponges.
It was pretty cool to seem them hauling around the track on the big bikes.

It was not cool seeing them do it with no real gear on.

[nhbubba]

...counterweighting is a powerful thing

Right. And I see very little of it here. Or I expected to see more of it anyway.

leaning your body in the direction of a swerve is counterproductive because it slows down the transitions.

This makes sense. Although I don't expect to see him lean into the turn, but out of it.. at these speeds.

I've recently discovered the concept of counterweighting the bike by getting much more weight on the outside peg than I am used to. Really blown away by how it has 'upped my game'. However I am interested in one turn and one turn only. Not continuous transitions like he is doing.

I just wish I had that level of throttle and clutch control down!

[jcbell1007]

I wonder how many floorboards he goes through in a year....

It takes years to grind through the boards. It's not something we do that often.

[jcbell1007]

How is that type of maneuverability actually useful in practice? I can't imagine many people that run from cops duck into the nearest hedge maze.

My department doesn't engage in pursuits on motorcycles, against policy because motors are no match for cages and it would be a huge liability/safety issue.

This type of skill is an absolute must. The road king and electriglide are around 800 lbs and around 8 ft long. I can take that bike and crank it around in a circle less than 17ft in diameter and be on my way in less than 2 seconds. Absolute turning radius of these harleys is about 16.5 feet or so, roughly two parking spots. I encourage you to try that on a sport bike, you can practice in any parking lot. When you have to get through traffic, onto bike paths and narrow spots, this kind of stuff is key. not to mention that trying to push this bike around sucks and being able to do this is a really handy skill to have.

[jcbell1007]

Countersteering and counterweighting is a powerful thing

This was essentially a multitude of consecutive swerves... and a swerve is defined as two consecutive countersteers... leaning your body in the direction of a swerve is counterproductive because it slows down the transitions. Keeping your body upright and steady allows you to use countersteering to transition the bike from side to side more quickly.


With that said, don't think for one second that I think I could go out there & do that on that bike

very little counterweighting at all. It would exhaust you if you had to counterweight all day. But stay's put and you turn your head to look through the corners.

the trick to all of these skills, if you watch the video and listen during the tight turns, is throttle, clutch and rear brake. its hard to explain but I could show you sometime.

[SRTie4k]

My department doesn't engage in pursuits on motorcycles, against policy because motors are no match for cages and it would be a huge liability/safety issue.

This type of skill is an absolute must. The road king and electriglide are around 800 lbs and around 8 ft long. I can take that bike and crank it around in a circle less than 17ft in diameter and be on my way in less than 2 seconds. Absolute turning radius of these harleys is about 16.5 feet or so, roughly two parking spots. I encourage you to try that on a sport bike, you can practice in any parking lot. When you have to get through traffic, onto bike paths and narrow spots, this kind of stuff is key. not to mention that trying to push this bike around sucks and being able to do this is a really handy skill to have.

I didn't even know the VT LEO had motorcycles.

[jcbell1007]

There are a handful of departments that do. I heard rumor that VSP was getting 6 or so, but I haven't seen them yet. They were the first to have motors in VT a long time ago (1919 or so).

[seth399]

that was nuts.. I loved it. Motorcycle Ballet

x2

[DucDave]

Even IF I could handle the bike anywhere near as well as he does, I'd be hopelessly lost after the second turn!

Great display of skill....

[davemon]

Newer stuff featuring my street bike in the police edition:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuaqeTL0kuc

Old stuff with Japanese police:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWaq0zOaAVU

Old VFR400 in use and the most fun to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHC37...eature=related

Dave