No-Mar

[R7]

Or should I say, No-More 2 hour round trips to the dealer to get tires changes Finally broke down and did it. I can't use it yet tho, my air compressor shit the bed, but I may go shopping for one this weekend. Any suggestions on that? I want quiet, unlike the crapsman oil free one I had.
I still have to wedge bolt it to the floor, but this is pretty much where it'll be. Already have the new hoops for the R1 and after a few rides, I'll put the new hoops on the Motard

[JonT]

purty! is that bolted down?

[LowSider]

From the one corner of the man cave I see, I already like.

[SAB]

Awesome. That R1 banner is equally as awesome.

[stoinkythepig]

I have an Ingersol Rand 3 HP, 60 gallon, two cylinder, single stage, upright compressor that I'm quite pleased with. It's been trouble free for 10 years and the only thing that taxes its capacity is sandblasting for extended periods. A two stage with otherwise the same specs would be nice...

[stoinkythepig]

You gotta move that vice to the edges of the corner of your bench. That's why there's only three mounting holes. By having it right at the edge, you can clamp long items and have them protrude below the vice, all the way to the floor.

[ssg]

Definitely dual stage compressor if you want something quiet. When I was looking, it was the only kind the guy at Sears was willing to fire up in the store.

They are pricey, but you like that kinda thing…something we share

[Tricky Mike]

Mark, if you expect to do your MX stuff as well you might want to consider the MX adapters that No-Mar sells. The stock cam blocks make using the machine for MX tires pretty much useless. They'll still hold the rim, but don't give enough clearance for the mount/demount bar to do it's thing. I haven't broken down and bought the adapters myself, so I can't really say if they're worth the money, but they look like they'd make a big difference and it stock trim it's basically just a bead breaker for the MX stuff.

[Kitt]

what does the set-up cost? I may upgrade from my my mojo fitted HF.

[R7]

purty! is that bolted down?

I still have to bolt it to the floor. I have the wedge bolts, just need to grab the drill from work. The jacks on it are just there for couter weight as it will fall backwards with no wheel on it.

You gotta move that vice to the edges of the corner of your bench. That's why there's only three mounting holes. By having it right at the edge, you can clamp long items and have them protrude below the vice, all the way to the floor.

It must be an illusion in the picture. The only area that would hit if I had something long in the vice would be the pointed corner on the bench if i spun the vice on a 45, but it'll clear both the side and front of the bench.

Definitely dual stage compressor if you want something quiet. When I was looking, it was the only kind the guy at Sears was willing to fire up in the store.

They are pricey, but you like that kinda thing…something we share

I'll have to look into them. Now where would the nearest Sears be to me now that the mall is going to be closed for a couple months?
There could be just something simple wrong with mine as well. It worked fine and i went to turn it on one day and it tripped the breaker. I took a few things apart and everything spins fine, but still trips?

Mark, if you expect to do your MX stuff as well you might want to consider the MX adapters that No-Mar sells. The stock cam blocks make using the machine for MX tires pretty much useless. They'll still hold the rim, but don't give enough clearance for the mount/demount bar to do it's thing. I haven't broken down and bought the adapters myself, so I can't really say if they're worth the money, but they look like they'd make a big difference and it stock trim it's basically just a bead breaker for the MX stuff.

I've bever had much of a problem with MX tires by hand and can usually even brake the bead by hand. ATV tires are another story, though once the bead is broken on them, it's very easy to get the tire on and off.
I'll see how it goes at first..

what does the set-up cost? I may upgrade from my my mojo fitted HF.

$838 to the door for the kit. The changer, a few replacement parts, lube kit, the wheel balancer, and a few strips of weights to get you started. It took about 20 minutes to assemble

[ssg]

I'll have to look into them. Now where would the nearest Sears be to me now that the mall is going to be closed for a couple months?
There could be just something simple wrong with mine as well. It worked fine and i went to turn it on one day and it tripped the breaker. I took a few things apart and everything spins fine, but still trips?

It's been a few years so I am not sure the Craftsman ones are still the nice. I think there are a few other makers (maybe even DeWalt?). The key is look for oiled (not oil less) and "twin stage" (usually belt driven), the lower the RPMS of the motor the quieter things will be.

I was thinking of getting one of these even though it's oil-free, it's still 2 stage and fairly quiet for what it is.

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...+%26+Air+Tools

There is a store locator there too if needed

I realize you're not a MAK fan, but…something like this and a spare air tank would probably be decent for tires and keeping in the basement. I checked DW but they don't seem to make anything quiet, sorry.
http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/...ls.aspx?ID=460


As for the old one, how old? on a 15 or 20a circuit? does the motor even start to spin or just you flick the switch and the breaker pops? I am guessing it's a capacitor start motor and one of your caps might have blown up and is now shorted..but one of those electronical types around here might be able to offer more.

[ssg]

Also realized on the smaller side, Ridgid makes an oiled one too..

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...76&marketID=39

Sure I can say this and you know…but oiled compressors are not for use in the cold or outdoors unless you run them indoors and get em really warm first.

[JonT]

now i noticed your basement floor is sealed....

remember, that once you screw holes and put bolts in that floor, water can seep through. Insurnace will not cover that.

happened to myself. built up my basement. nailed the wood to the sealed floor and water seeped in between the screw and the cement floor.

so make sure you do something about that, maybe.... some caulk on the threads of the bolts

[R7]

As for the old one, how old? on a 15 or 20a circuit? does the motor even start to spin or just you flick the switch and the breaker pops? I am guessing it's a capacitor start motor and one of your caps might have blown up and is now shorted..but one of those electronical types around here might be able to offer more.

I think i bought it maybe 10-12 years ago? it's a 22 gallon upright oil-less. I really didn't use it all that much. Used it to paint a truck when i first got it, random air pressure adjustments on bikes and vehicles, and I built my house with it (air nailers).
It's on a 20a circuit all by itself in the basement, the one that's direct off the main service. At first, the motor would start to spin, and spin slow, then pop the breaker. Now it just moves a fraction, then pops the breaker. If it's a simple fix, I'd fix it. I'm not the type to pay $100+ for a service call at a "chance" to get it fixxed when the thing only cost $275 new back when i bought it. Any ideas what it could be from what I described?

now i noticed your basement floor is sealed....

remember, that once you screw holes and put bolts in that floor, water can seep through. Insurnace will not cover that.

happened to myself. built up my basement. nailed the wood to the sealed floor and water seeped in between the screw and the cement floor.

so make sure you do something about that, maybe.... some caulk on the threads of the bolts

There's no sealer on my basement floor, that's the natural concrete. I've been wanting to epoxy it, just havn't had the time.
There's also 12" of crushed stone under the floor with a perimeter drain that goes into a sump pump hole. As long as i remember to keep the pump plugged in if we get more than 3-4" of rain, the water will never come up on the floor

[ssg]

If it's a simple fix, I'd fix it. I'm not the type to pay $100+ for a service call at a "chance" to get it fixxed when the thing only cost $275 new back when i bought it. Any ideas what it could be from what I described?

Might be simple for some…honestly, caps and motors are not my thing and so I never changed them on consumer grade stuff. I'm guessing unless the motor is making weird screeching noises you've probably blown the starting capacitor on the motor. Got an electrician buddy nearby? he can probably find a replacement quick cheap and easy…and see if that solves it.

If you're daring, there is some advice here:
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/sh...ad.php?t=29659

otherwise, since it's single-stage oilless, depends how much life is left in the compressor mechanism itself. Generally they are not really designed to be serviced…although if you've had it 10+ years, it might be one of the old school ones that has replaceable parts

[BluGixxer]

some one said something about oil lubed compressors not for cold weather and they are quiet ?
I have an IR 2 stage alluminum pump w/5 hp cap start .60 gal uprite
first off it is not quiet at all , it thumps and has vibrated the whole house. I have it somewhat isolated on 2x8's with rubber mounts and on 6 " nylon casters . thats my home anti vib kit , it helps alot , but it is stil loud.
when then air enters the second stage to bump the pressure , thats the thump.. As for the cold weather , I have owned this since 1989 , it has always been in an unheated garage , last 9 yrs in an out building where it just doesnt get any more cold.. it works fine change the non detergent sae30 oil once in awhile and your golden..
that rigid with 5 gal tank might not be enough volume for the stuborn tires when settting the bead, espeacially atv tires that don't seat right away.
if you look around at some tool stores even big lots /oddlots harbor frieght I think home depot even had some, single stage 2 cylinder 60-80 gal tank 5-7 hp for around $400 or less ,the 120 psi is plenty . my 175psi is overkill for home use. educate yourself on the brand names, some big companies make comp under different names, I saw one in harbor frieght that the pump looks identicle to my Ingersol Rand.

[ssg]

I wouldn't expect anything 5hp 60gal to be quiet.

But two stage or oiled units are definitely quieter than single-stage oilless units.

I would try to get something with 20 gallons or above that can do at least 6.0scfm, but the balance is going to be finding something decent and quiet that will do that.

[jamesbernatchez]

It looks like a lot of people are getting tire machines. I'll take that quad off your hands

[JonT]

so you going to be doing some tire changes for people for some $$?

[R7]

so you going to be doing some tire changes for people for some $$?

Probably at some point, yes. I want to change mine own first to get a feel for it and if I think it's worth the time and hassles, I may start a tire changing thread for this area

[Degsy]

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The great no-mar tire change-off? I think I got a demount-mount down to under 90 seconds.

[JonT]

so when are you going to start doing tire changes for people?

[tropicoz]

That's a nice piece! I bought a cheapo HF tire changer for about $80 (after coupons/sale) and it's served me well. It's raw compared to that beauty, but it's paid for itself a few times over!!!

[R7]

so when are you going to start doing tire changes for people?

I haven't even changed one of my own yet, but if you want to be the first with no guarantee of scratches or time, I'll give it a shot for a 12 pack of beer Carry in wheels only

[MysteriousR1]

I haven't even changed one of my own yet, but if you want to be the first with no guarantee of scratches or time, I'll give it a shot for a 12 pack of beer Carry in wheels only

Really....Hmm, I've got a Motard rim with plenty of scratches already dying to get a pilot power put on