I think I finally get it...

[Jaynnus]

FINE!!! You win

[ThisBitch]

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

[Jaynnus]

I hate it when mommy and daddy fight.

Is that why you go both ways??

[naked-daytrader]

Is that why you go both ways??

Jannyus I can't stay mad at you... Lets never fight again

[seth399]

I saw a hot blonde on a sportbike drive past me in watertown yesterday...I would have loved to wave but I was in my truck. My fav of all time is still the badass harley biker guy with huge beard that gave me a huge thumbs up when I waved at him...that made my day honestly.

[Sheppo]

They're loud, obnoxious, rev their engines at stoplights and do lots of other douchebag things.

Stop picking on me

[stevecbr900rr]

Jannyus I can't stay mad at you... Lets never fight again

Bud...you're killing me with that picture of u and Theirry...

[scottieducati]

I agree, that most people (whether or a cruiser or not) on a large charity ride like that are probably GOOD PEOPLE.

What I can't stand is being in a group of 5-6 sportbikes, coming up behind a group of 5-6 cruisers riding in a staggered formation at *maybe* the speed limit (if we're lucky) and not once have I *ever* experienced a group of cruiser guys moving over to let some sport bike guys go by. And I log a LOT of miles, and have come across this for a large enough sample set to draw a conclusion from.

They just lumber along at at or below the speed limit, smoking cigarettes and don't give 2 shits who is stuck behind them... kinda like cagers!! Which is BS. Until you've ridden in Europe or somewhere where cars move over, and other bikers are courteous and move over... all this "lets all get along" crap on the roads doesn't mean a GD thing... bottom line is in the US we play by the (s)lowest common demomenator.

I've also come up on a guy on a hog and passed him, only to have him dragging *everything* down the same road keeping right up w/ us!! Gave him a huge thumbs up at the end and went our separate ways.

I've also been to bike week and ridden in groups of cruisers and got along swimmingly, as they all seem to have instant respect for the soulful sound of an Italian V-Twin. Great people to ride with, do a parade with, but absolutely ZERO road manners when it comes to encounters on the open road.

Flame off.

[Honclfibr]

I've also been to bike week and ridden in groups of cruisers and got along swimmingly, as they all seem to have instant respect for the soulful sound of an Italian V-Twin.

Well of course, that's because they recognize and identify with the sound of elitist snobbery which seems to be the primary emission of both American and Italian made motorcycles.

[scottieducati]

ZING! At least we don't sound like a pack of bees Always bothered me though, as hogs have the sound for no other reason than to be loud and obnoxious, whereas a sport bike is a mechanical symphony.

I hate nothing more than a big-bore cruiser w/ straight pipes... WTF seriously.

Well of course, that's because they recognize and identify with the sound of elitist snobbery which seems to be the primary emission of both American and Italian made motorcycles.

[Woodsy]

ZING! At least we don't sound like a pack of bees Always bothered me though, as hogs have the sound for no other reason than to be loud and obnoxious, whereas a sport bike is a mechanical symphony.

I hate nothing more than a big-bore cruiser w/ straight pipes... WTF seriously.

it is a bit stupid. but loud pipes save lives right? WTF

[scottieducati]

And also cause people to go deaf, or rage on you. There is a point where loud = too loud.

[catch2otwo]

ZING! At least we don't sound like a pack of bees Always bothered me though, as hogs have the sound for no other reason than to be loud and obnoxious, whereas a sport bike is a mechanical symphony.

I hate nothing more than a big-bore cruiser w/ straight pipes... WTF seriously.

that makes no sense. pipes are pipes whether its on your duc or a harley. they both do the same thing performance wise. they uncork the stock exhaust blah blah blah. just cause it doesnt sound good to you....

[seth399]

that makes no sense. pipes are pipes whether its on your duc or a harley. they both do the same thing performance wise. they uncork the stock exhaust blah blah blah. just cause it doesnt sound good to you....

I think his point is, when is the last time you saw 2 chrome (straight) pipes coming off a duc? All of them I have seen have had some type of mufflers.

[catch2otwo]

I think his point is, when is the last time you saw 2 chrome (straight) pipes coming off a duc? All of them I have seen have had some type of mufflers.

where i can see his point that the pipes play a bigger role in asthetics as compared to trying to squeeze out the last .5 hp a pipe is a pipe in my eyes. its just who hears it.

[seth399]

right, I just think that also as far as "loud" goes...a loud sportbike twin can definitely be really loud, but cruiser loud is like ear bleeding loud. I think a twin with some type of mufflers but is damn loud sounds pretty awesome, without getting to the point of ears bleeding off. But that is just my opinion ofcourse...maybe the common person in a car hears them as very very similar for all I know.

[GixerJockey]

...the percentage of assholes in any given population is a constant...

That's kind of like, "never bring an asshole with you, there's already one where you're going...".


Congratulations on providing my new sig. quote...

[Doc]

I grew up around a pretty rough Harley crowd.

I can remember being told not to wave to non harley's (this was before you couldn't tell the difference)

I also remember being told that HOG chapter riders were not REAL Harley riders.

Sportbike riders road rice burners and were the worst type.
I don't think Harley riders are all that tolerant.

Through all this I decided to ride sportbikes. I wave to most every bike. I don't turn any kind of bike away from a ride or bike night (to include mopeds and CB125's) and I try my best to mentor squids.

I can appreciate any bike and can defend my choice quite well (If you are going to ride a couch why not just stay home )

The sportbike community is not as community oriented because it is filled with younger people who are not of that mind set.

[McBiggity]

I spent nearly 12 hours with close to 500 Harley riders on Sunday, the write up is here:
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...rian-ride.html

There was more tolerance amongst that group than I see here Not once did someone shun me for being on my sport bike, not once did I hear a disparaging comment, and I got nearly 500 thumbs up as I blocked traffic as a road captain.

In my experience the 'Harley' crowd has less attitude and more rider comradeship, across brands, than this crowd.

I for one am tired of the 'us and them' attitude. So I get it now, it is derived from 'us' not them, get over it already.

I hear ya Jane, In addition to being an MSF coach, I am a Rider's Edge Instructor which is a Harley program. I have never been given crap from the thousands of HD riders, new and old, about riding my triumph. To quote my program manager, "It's all the same wind in your face."

[Brian675]

Well of course there's more tolerance when you're a chic on a sportbike among 500 harleys.....

If a dude drove up on a rice burner among 500 Harleys I think the music would stop, the needle would scratch across the record and there would be dead silence and some funny looks ;with a few scowls thrown in for good measure.

Plus, most guys don't have a rear-end like yours.....

+1 Couldn't put it any better. Well said daytrader.

[Brian675]

There is a point where loud = too loud.

Yeah when your too old.

[OreoGaborio]

Yeah when your too old.

... well if you say so.

Anyone know where the fountain of youth is? apparently I'm over the hill.

[butcher bergs]

In my experience the 'Harley' crowd has less attitude and more rider comradeship, across brands, than this crowd.

In person perhaps.
In my experience I've literally been shunned on numerous occasions because of the bike I choose to ride......a non-Harley.

Most recent example--> On my way back from FL on the FJR, I came up on a group of about 10 Harleys on the highway. The leader noticed I wasn't one of "them" so he switched lanes and slowed down to the point where I just couldn't go 45mph on a 5 lane highway. I got the hint and it was clear....I was not welcome in that group.

I for one am tired of the 'us and them' attitude. So I get it now, it is derived from 'us' not them, get over it already.

I disagree with this statement. During bike week type events, you don't find a sportbike crowd stringing Harleys up in trees and lighting them on fire....you don't see a sportbike rider putting the eqivalant to rice in the tailpipe of a Harley (I guess that would be hamburg?), you don't see the sneers, the comments, the "poo-poo-ing"...I mean the list goes on.

You've seen the T-shirt thread. Where do you suppose that shirt originated from? A sportbike rider?

How about the guy driving his truck in Nashua when I was parking my FZ1...he decided it would be awsome of him to tell me to "get a real bike" as he passed by. I'll give you one guess how many Harley stickers were in the rear window of that truck.

I have never once seen a public display of total motorcycling ignorance from a sport-type rider than what a Harley-type rider feels the need to display on a consistant basis.

I have never once heard a sport-type rider tell a Harley rider "get a bike that doesn't leak oil" or " get a bike that can actually turn" or "get 1340cc bike that makes more than 27hp"......never once have I heard any of this......forget what's said on the forums.

So, you think it's "us" that causes this shit? You think it's "us" that provokes this seperation? Hey, those Harley-types are the 1 percenters....or so they think. Fucking sheep, the lot of them.

At least a sport-type rider has the ability to think for themselves....and even beyond that, where's the Jap-cruiser crowd land in all this?

[McBiggity]

At least a sport-type rider has the ability to think for themselves....and even beyond that, where's the Jap-cruiser crowd land in all this?

yeah, they can sure think for themselves.
Gixxer yo! is all i have to say to that.

[Honclfibr]

Boooosuuuuuhhhh