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    Boo hoo you got a ticket. Don't speed simple solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    Doc I agree with everything else you said but this. Never, ever under any circumstance admit guilt. Even if they didn't see anything and are just fishing they can now give you a ticket based on self admission.

    Be very polite and very honest, but never admit wrong doing.
    I didn't say admit guilt.

    I said accept responsability.

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    you do the crime you do the time with bubba



    what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhuze View Post
    I use the arguement of "of course you had to do 50 to catch me I was ahead of you." If you were doing 60 how could he catch you doing 50?
    exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom3040 View Post
    If your willing to pay a lwayer $100 why not just pay the $100 ticket? What if you bring a lawyer to court and loose then you'd be paying $200. $100 for the ticket and $100 for your cheap ass lawyer.
    You pay a lawyer $100 possibly it all goes away.
    Pay the $100 fine and insurance will go up because its a moving violation. So add $100 plus the extra money spent on insurance increases.

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    Any lawyer will start at $500

    Of course cheaper than insurance up charge

    What I do is find the court house and then look for lawyers across the street

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnm988 View Post
    Not in NH, its based on the actual speed, not the MPH over... so in other words, the ticket for 70 in a 55 is the same $$ as 70 in a 45.
    I don't know where your getting your information but it's wrong

    look up RSA 265:60 tickets in NH are based on mph above the speed limit

    TITLE XXI
    MOTOR VEHICLES
    CHAPTER 265
    RULES OF THE ROAD
    Speed Limitations
    Section 265:60
    265:60 Basic Rule and Maximum Limits. –
    I. No person shall drive a vehicle on a way at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event speed shall be so controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance on or entering the way in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.
    II. Where no hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with RSA 265:60, I, the speed of any vehicle not in excess of the limit specified in this section or established as hereinafter authorized shall be prima facie lawful, but any speed in excess of the limit specified in this section or established as hereinafter authorized shall be prima facie evidence that the speed is not reasonable or prudent and that it is unlawful:
    (a) In a posted school zone, at a speed of 10 miles per hour below the usual posted limit from 45 minutes prior to each school opening until each school opening and from each school closing until 45 minutes after each school closing.
    (b) 30 miles per hour in any business or urban residence district as defined in RSA 259:118;
    (c) 35 miles per hour in any rural residence district as defined in RSA 259:93, and on any class V highway outside the compact part of any city or town as defined in RSA 229:5, IV;
    (d) 55 miles per hour in other locations, except as provided in (e);
    (e) 65 miles an hour on the interstate system, the central New Hampshire turnpike and the eastern New Hampshire turnpike in locations where said highways are 4-lane divided highways or other divided highways of 4 or more lanes.
    (f) On a portion of a highway where officers or employees of the agency having jurisdiction of the same, or any contractor of the agency or their employees, are at work on the roadway or so close thereto as to be endangered by passing traffic, at a speed of 10 miles per hour below the usual posted limit, but in no case greater than 45 miles per hour. The speed shall be displayed on signs as required by RSA 265:6-a.
    III. The limit specified in II(e) shall be the maximum lawful speed and no person shall drive a vehicle on said ways at a speed in excess of such maximum limit. The prima facie speed limits set forth in this section may be altered as authorized in RSA 265:62.
    IV. The driver of every vehicle shall, consistent with requirements of paragraph I, drive at an appropriate reduced speed when approaching and crossing an intersection or railway grade crossing, when approaching and going around a curve, when approaching a hillcrest, when traveling upon any narrow or winding roadway, and when special hazard exists with respect to pedestrians or other traffic by reason of weather or highway conditions.
    V. The fines for violation of subparagraphs II(a)-(d) shall be as follows:
    Miles per hour above the limit specified:
    1""10 $50
    11""15 75
    16""20 100
    21""25 200
    26+ Must appear
    (Minimum $350)


    VI. The fines for violations of subparagraph II(e) shall be as follows:
    Miles above the 65 mph limit:
    1""5 $65
    6""10 100
    11""15 150
    16""20 250
    21""25 350
    26+ Must appear

    Source. 1905, 86:8. 1909, 154:4. 1911, 133:13. 1921, 119:13. PL 103:17. 1927, 76:2. 1937, 125:1. RL 119:29. 1949, 286:1. RSA 263:53. 1963, 330:1. RSA 262-A:54. 1965, 335:1. 1979, 358:4. 1981, 146:1. 1987, 217:1. 1988, 245:11. 1989, 164:1. 1997, 11:1. 1999, 73:1, eff. July 27, 1999. 2005, 177:42, eff. July 1, 2005. 2006, 259:18, eff. one day after passage of state operating budget for biennium ending June 30, 2009. 2007, 263:66, eff. June 29, 2007.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    Doc I agree with everything else you said but this. Never, ever under any circumstance admit guilt. Even if they didn't see anything and are just fishing they can now give you a ticket based on self admission.

    Be very polite and very honest, but never admit wrong doing.
    AND DON'T STOP LOL. look back and then make a B-line for Wilmington, you can sort it all out at bike night.

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    Thanks Randy, I knew what Jackie was saying didn't make any sense. I just didn't have the proof to back it up


    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Miles per hour above the limit specified:
    1""10 $50
    11""15 75
    16""20 100
    21""25 200
    26+ Must appear
    (Minimum $350)
    I got bagged for doing 95 in a 55 a while back, he was cutting me a break by writing 95, and got a must appear ticket. I didn't even fight it, just went in and when it was my turn in front of the magistrate plead guilty. He gave me a lecture $200 fine $40 court fee and told me that I can't drive in NH for 7 days, I was living in MA at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCT748 View Post
    Thanks Randy, I knew what Jackie was saying didn't make any sense. I just didn't have the proof to back it up




    I got bagged for doing 95 in a 55 a while back, he was cutting me a break by writing 95, and got a must appear ticket. I didn't even fight it, just went in and when it was my turn in front of the magistrate plead guilty. He gave me a lecture $200 fine $40 court fee and told me that I can't drive in NH for 7 days, I was living in MA at the time.
    magistrate in NH ......... so such thing, you were in front of a judge

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    magistrate in NH ......... so such thing, you were in front of a judge
    it was a few years back. Whatever he was he cut me a break.

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    I have a fee schedule in my car from the ticket I got last week, I'll bring it in and scan it so you can see what I'm talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    V. The fines for violation of subparagraphs II(a)-(d) shall be as follows:
    Miles per hour above the limit specified:
    1""10 $50
    11""15 75
    16""20 100
    21""25 200
    26+ Must appear
    (Minimum $350)


    VI. The fines for violations of subparagraph II(e) shall be as follows:
    Miles above the 65 mph limit:
    1""5 $65
    6""10 100
    11""15 150
    16""20 250
    21""25 350
    26+ Must appear
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    so going 75 in a 55 is 20 MPH over the limit, and it is the first fee schedule, resulting in a $100 fine. 75 in a 65 is 10 MPH over the limit, and is the second fee schedule, resulting in a $100 fine. The only speed limits where the fines match for a given MPH is 55 and 65.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsy View Post
    AND DON'T STOP LOL. look back and then make a B-line for Wilmington, you can sort it all out at bike night.
    I still maintain I did not run. I never exceeded the speed limit once I saw blues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    I still maintain I did not run. I never exceeded the speed limit once I saw blues.
    I will give you that, you jogged within reasonable limits from the PO

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV650N View Post
    so going 75 in a 55 is 20 MPH over the limit, and it is the first fee schedule, resulting in a $100 fine. 75 in a 65 is 10 MPH over the limit, and is the second fee schedule, resulting in a $100 fine. The only speed limits where the fines match for a given MPH is 55 and 65.
    read closer, first schedule is amount over speed limit for all speed limits except areas posted 65

    do going 55 in a 35 is also $100 or 60 in a 40 is $100 as is 45 in a 25 yada yada yada

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    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    Any lawyer will start at $500

    Of course cheaper than insurance up charge

    What I do is find the court house and then look for lawyers across the street
    +1. In some states (NJ for example), you'll actually receive a phone call a couple days after you get a summons/ticket from lawyers that build their practice around what the court files...this happened to my pop a couple months back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    read closer, first schedule is amount over speed limit for all speed limits except areas posted 65

    do going 55 in a 35 is also $100 or 60 in a 40 is $100 as is 45 in a 25 yada yada yada
    I did read that, and I wasn't incorrect in what I said. I was trying to show that Jackie wasn't incorrect in what she said, and neither were the other people. I may not have been crystal clear, but that's because I'm an engineer

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    Quote Originally Posted by SV650N View Post
    I did read that, and I wasn't incorrect in what I said. I was trying to show that Jackie wasn't incorrect in what she said, and neither were the other people. I may not have been crystal clear, but that's because I'm an engineer
    yes, jacky was incorrect and you are, fines are based on amount over the speed limit, not the speed you are going. it's only coincidence in 65mph zones with an increased fine schedule that the same speed results in the same fine when you are in a 55 zone, if you were going 70 in a 50 zone, the fine would be $200, in a 40 zone hen you would get a "must appear" citation

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    yes, jacky was incorrect and you are, fines are based on amount over the speed limit, not the speed you are going. it's only coincidence in 65mph zones with an increased fine schedule that the same speed results in the same fine when you are in a 55 zone, if you were going 70 in a 50 zone, the fine would be $200, in a 40 zone hen you would get a "must appear" citation
    I never said anything about a 40 zone, I only mentioned 55 and 65 and a typical speed somebody might be traveling in those zones. If it worked for a single example, I must be able to extrapolate for all cases, right? I didn't look in detail at the fee schedules, I didn't notice that the only dollar amount that is the same between the two is the $100 fine. Damn my short attention span.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I don't know where your getting your information but it's wrong

    look up RSA 265:60 tickets in NH are based on mph above the speed limit

    TITLE XXI
    MOTOR VEHICLES
    CHAPTER 265
    RULES OF THE ROAD
    Speed Limitations
    Section 265:60
    265:60 Basic Rule and Maximum Limits. –
    I. No person shall drive a vehicle on a way at a speed greater than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard to the actual and potential hazards then existing. In every event speed shall be so controlled as may be necessary to avoid colliding with any person, vehicle, or other conveyance on or entering the way in compliance with legal requirements and the duty of all persons to use due care.
    II. Where no hazard exists that requires lower speed for compliance with RSA 265:60, I, the speed of any vehicle not in excess of the limit specified in this section or established as hereinafter authorized shall be prima facie lawful, but any speed in excess of the limit specified in this section or established as hereinafter authorized shall be prima facie evidence that the speed is not reasonable or prudent and that it is unlawful:
    (a) In a posted school zone, at a speed of 10 miles per hour below the usual posted limit from 45 minutes prior to each school opening until each school opening and from each school closing until 45 minutes after each school closing.
    (b) 30 miles per hour in any business or urban residence district as defined in RSA 259:118;
    (c) 35 miles per hour in any rural residence district as defined in RSA 259:93, and on any class V highway outside the compact part of any city or town as defined in RSA 229:5, IV;
    (d) 55 miles per hour in other locations, except as provided in (e);
    (e) 65 miles an hour on the interstate system, the central New Hampshire turnpike and the eastern New Hampshire turnpike in locations where said highways are 4-lane divided highways or other divided highways of 4 or more lanes.
    (f) On a portion of a highway where officers or employees of the agency having jurisdiction of the same, or any contractor of the agency or their employees, are at work on the roadway or so close thereto as to be endangered by passing traffic, at a speed of 10 miles per hour below the usual posted limit, but in no case greater than 45 miles per hour. The speed shall be displayed on signs as required by RSA 265:6-a.
    III. The limit specified in II(e) shall be the maximum lawful speed and no person shall drive a vehicle on said ways at a speed in excess of such maximum limit. The prima facie speed limits set forth in this section may be altered as authorized in RSA 265:62.
    IV. The driver of every vehicle shall, consistent with requirements of paragraph I, drive at an appropriate reduced speed when approaching and crossing an intersection or railway grade crossing, when approaching and going around a curve, when approaching a hillcrest, when traveling upon any narrow or winding roadway, and when special hazard exists with respect to pedestrians or other traffic by reason of weather or highway conditions.
    V. The fines for violation of subparagraphs II(a)-(d) shall be as follows:
    Miles per hour above the limit specified:
    1""10 $50
    11""15 75
    16""20 100
    21""25 200
    26+ Must appear
    (Minimum $350)


    VI. The fines for violations of subparagraph II(e) shall be as follows:
    Miles above the 65 mph limit:
    1""5 $65
    6""10 100
    11""15 150
    16""20 250
    21""25 350
    26+ Must appear

    Source. 1905, 86:8. 1909, 154:4. 1911, 133:13. 1921, 119:13. PL 103:17. 1927, 76:2. 1937, 125:1. RL 119:29. 1949, 286:1. RSA 263:53. 1963, 330:1. RSA 262-A:54. 1965, 335:1. 1979, 358:4. 1981, 146:1. 1987, 217:1. 1988, 245:11. 1989, 164:1. 1997, 11:1. 1999, 73:1, eff. July 27, 1999. 2005, 177:42, eff. July 1, 2005. 2006, 259:18, eff. one day after passage of state operating budget for biennium ending June 30, 2009. 2007, 263:66, eff. June 29, 2007.
    RandyO busting out with the facts once again.
    Thank you for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian675 View Post
    RandyO busting out with the facts once again.
    Thank you for the clarification.
    I have to deal with NH environmental laws on a daily basis, not a big deal to find something else on the same website

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