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Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    There is a gear between 1st and 2nd.....it's a gear called "cornerspeed" and every bike has it.

    Not sure who you have ridden with for trackdays but grab an instructor and utilize his/her knowledge. I'm willing to bet the solution to your gearing concerns does not involve $200 in a chain and sprockets.

    Just my .02

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    There is a gear between 1st and 2nd.....it's a gear called "cornerspeed" and every bike has it.

    Not sure who you have ridden with for trackdays but grab an instructor and utilize his/her knowledge. I'm willing to bet the solution to your gearing concerns does not involve $200 in a chain and sprockets.

    Just my .02

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    There is a gear between 1st and 2nd.....it's a gear called "cornerspeed" and every bike has it.

    Not sure who you have ridden with for trackdays but grab an instructor and utilize his/her knowledge. I'm willing to bet the solution to your gearing concerns does not involve $200 in a chain and sprockets.

    Just my .02
    I've only ridden with Tony's and I completely take advantage of the instruction. Sure, we can all use more corner speed. Like I said, I'm only just learning, but I've ridden enough to know where I am fast and slow in a relative sense and I am beyond caring about how fast I can go down the front straight. With the exception of turn 3, which I have been parking it a bit after a recent crash, the problem I am trying to focus on here is not mid corner speed, it's initial acceleration out of the corners as the bike is picked up.

    If anything, there may be an issue for me of being overly cautious about ratcheting on the throttle. So, in one ear I hear don't use first gear, crazy things can happen. In the other I hear go faster through the corners. Maybe it's just a lack of confidence on the throttle?

    Typically, I'll be chasing someone down and be closing on them through the entire section from T4 into T12, but almost always they'll get better drive out of T12, even on much less powerful bikes. I know it's me way more than the gearing, but with the gearing as high as it is I don't think that is doing much to refine my throttle control skills and build confidence.

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    Quote Originally Posted by Harley Davidson View Post
    In the other I hear go faster...
    Not trying to suggest to simply "go faster". Lemme get a PM together here so this doesn't get too far off the original topic...

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Not trying to suggest to simply "go faster". Lemme get a PM together here so this doesn't get too far off the original topic...
    Thanks. This is just something I've been struggling with since I started and this discussion brought it out. Btw, I rode a buddy's CBR600, which is geared for Loudon, and I am pretty sure my 2nd gear is taller than his 4th.

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    If you wanna garner even more responses, make a thread. Feel free to post my PM if you wish.

    In short, I am of the opinion that raising entry speed rather than relying on drive alone is where you will increase your engine RPM and better prepare the machine for exit rather than considering using 1st gear or spending money on gearing changes for your particular bike.

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    Re: Hi rev/low gear vs. low rev/high gear

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    If you wanna garner even more responses, make a thread. Feel free to post my PM if you wish.

    In short, I am of the opinion that raising entry speed rather than relying on drive alone is where you will increase your engine RPM and better prepare the machine for exit rather than considering using 1st gear or spending money on gearing changes for your particular bike.
    The PM was most helpful and I've rethought some of this. Thanks! I'll revisit it after my next track day if things aren't improving.

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