Learned to Fish Tail....

[jcrawford]

Well kinda, got going on wet roads went to shift from first to second and missed the shifter when attempting to shift to second (just a fuggin mistake)

rear tire started fishtailing from the engine braking, quickly saved it but was kinda fun

[DuncanMoto]

Everything is fun if you save it.

[scubasteveRR]

Everything is fun if you save it.

and first wipe the poo out of your undies I stopped the hard downshifting in less than ideal conditions after the first time I did that one!

[OreoGaborio]

Saw thread title... knew it was a jc thread.

Read first post... knew it was a jc post.

[wiggeywackyo]

^^

[OreoGaborio]

PS... you didn't learn how to fishtail, you learned how to make a mistake... luckily the bike recovered for you.

[aldend123]

My first couple times out riding, I learned quickly not to let the clutch out fast. Make that mistake in a turn and it's going to be a wild ride. Bad conditions means easy on the clutch. Especially for people like me who aren't very experienced. I'd also think a bike like yours, aggressive shifting in wet weather in low gears could result in the tire loosing traction even when you do nail the shift...

[jcrawford]

Saw thread title... knew it was a jc thread.

Read first post... knew it was a jc post.

wait so the jcrawford next to the thread title didn't give it away, you actually had to read it to know

PS... you didn't learn how to fishtail, you learned how to make a mistake... luckily the bike recovered for you.

lol i know it was a mistake This was more a a joke thread about my mistake

Oh and I kinda feel I recovered it not the bike because I gave the bike the inputs. First thing was pull in the clutch and second was keeping the front wheel straight while letting it even itself out

[Degsy]

lol i know it was a mistake This was more a a joke thread about my mistake

Oh and I kinda feel I recovered it not the bike because I gave the bike the inputs. First thing was pull in the clutch and second was keeping the front wheel straight while letting it even itself out

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[RandyO]

I'm really confused, I would define "fishtailing" as something done under acceleration

[The Snowman]

I want my 30 seconds back.

[jcrawford]

I want my 30 seconds back.

I'll give you 10 seconds back, going to be hard to convince me it took 30 seconds to read my first post

[kb1]

Doesn't that happen to just about anyone that has done some reasonably aggressive riding at the track? I mean going into at least turns 1 and 2 I always have the back end chattering around and I am by no means "fast".

[Chippertheripper]

PS... you didn't learn how to fishtail, you learned how to make a mistake... luckily the bike recovered for you.

This.

*Clever close thread computer code*

[The Snowman]

Doesn't that happen to just about anyone that has done some reasonably aggressive riding at the track? I mean going into at least turns 1 and 2 I always have the back end chattering around and I am by no means "fast".

Only if you downshift way to quickly and let the clutch out too fast.

[kb1]

Only if you downshift way to quickly and let the clutch out too fast.

I will add that to the list of things I'm probably doing wrong.

[Jim]

Only if you downshift way to quickly and let the clutch out too fast.

jcrawford's bike has a factory slipper clutch, so it "shouldnt" chatter when dropped a gear at high RPM's

[Expat]

Doesn't that happen to just about anyone that has done some reasonably aggressive riding at the track? I mean going into at least turns 1 and 2 I always have the back end chattering around and I am by no means "fast".

Seriously? Into 2??!!

[kb1]

Seriously? Into 2??!!

Meant 3, my bad...typing too quickly.

[OreoGaborio]

wait so the jcrawford next to the thread title didn't give it away, you actually had to read it to know

I try to read the contents people write before I look at the user name... doing it that way helps me avoid being prejudice in my responses.

Your posts stick out like you wouldn't believe.

[OreoGaborio]

kb1, work on easing out the clutch...
When I downshift, I usually ease out the clutch as if I'm taking off from a stop in 2nd gear. Doing that would probably solve your rear wheel hop issues.

[kb1]

kb1, work on easing out the clutch...
When you downshift, I like to ease out the clutch as if I'm taking off from a stop in 2nd gear.

I will do that for sure next year, Thanks Pete!

[SRTie4k]

Isn't a chattering rear tire from a downshift just a sign that the rider didn't rev-match very well? Most rev-matched downshifts I make on my bike in corners seem to come out pretty smooth.

Granted I don't ride 9/10ths on the track like you guys.

[OreoGaborio]

To put it very simply, rear wheel hop typicaly occurrs because the rear tire is turning slower than the speed at which the bike is traveling. It grips, slips, grips, slips and the result is chatter or hop.

Likely causes? Either you didn't "blip" enough, or you didn't ease the clutch out slow enough, or a combination of both.

Personally, I do a little bit of both but I rely a little more on my clutch slip than my throttle blip (because a strong throttle blip affects my braking precision).

[CBR929RE]

none of you fuckers can read. he was UPshifting. what I can't figure out is if you completely missed the shifter lever why did you let the clutch out before reaching for the lever again? I can't see how going from first to first would make the bike fishtail except for being hamfisted with the throttle.