Nick Ienatsch on Braking in a corner.

[Paul_E_D]

Wirelessly posted

Couldn't have said it better myself. Thanks Tony

[jwm2k3]

Eye Natch

[jwm2k3]

I'm sure he already knows it!

While it may appear he is defying the laws of physics - I'm pretty sure he isn't.

While you can certainly achieve max lean angle after the true apex - that is not going to get you around a corner the fastest.

The key point remains. You can either have max lean angle or max acceleration, but they are diverging points. As you approach max of one, you must approach min of the other.

It seems the motorcycle world wants to see the former, no matter the cost of the latter, in this case...

[feralchimp]

Great read, and thanks for the book recommendation. Big fan of the "all the info, no matter how many words it takes" stylee.

[Woodcraft]

Nick knows his stuff.....I've read his book and watched him ride when he was an AMA 250GP front runner. Even those who know better (ahem) get caught up in the moment sometimes, as evidenced by my mistake last weekend. The application and release of all control inputs needs to happen smoothly....the truth is often simple, is it not?

[Rada]

Nick knows his stuff.....I've read his book and watched him ride when he was an AMA 250GP front runner. Even those who know better (ahem) get caught up in the moment sometimes, as evidenced by my mistake last weekend. The application and release of all control inputs needs to happen smoothly....the truth is often simple, is it not?

Yes it is.
I watched the Pink Tutu hit the deck in front of me entering T9 Saturday from a overly quick application of front brake... It is easy to get caught up in the moment...

Glad all involved were OK. Hopefully you can save more than the spark plugs on your bike...

[PainfullySlow]

This comes along at a very opportune moment as I was just re-visiting my riding technique after this last race weekend where I was struggling with rear tire grip on Sunday. The result: I was exhausted, my tip-ins were lazy and subsequently I was having to continue to turn well past the apex. As I applied throttle at my usual spot, the increased lean angle of my crappy riding was a large part of the issue.

Get the turning done sooner, and the trouble goes away.

[nhbubba]

Get the turning done sooner, and the trouble goes away.

I think this is a huge problem for me.

[Karate.Snoopy]

don’t accelerate until you can see your exit and can take away lean angle.

If people would do this, then Turn 4 wouldn't be called HIGHSIDE HILL.

A little off topic from the main post, but if you apply this technique to all of your riding, it will save you a lot of pain and suffering.

Get the bike turned on the way into the corner, while trail braking. Then reduce lean angle and add throttle as you leave the corner heading toward your exit point.

If you ever find yourself adding throttle after the apex - and you are still doing bar inputs to finish turning - you're doing it wrong.

(NOTE: I'm not talking about cracking the throttle, or giving a little maintenance throttle, which should be done just after trail braking and before the apex. I'm talking about applying throttle to power out of a corner)

Another thing to keep in mind is that if you use the ratchet technique, you will often get away with adding throttle and turning - but that is not the ideal method. The ratchet technique is to find the maximum amount of throttle you can add AS YOU ARE REDUCING LEAN ANGLE.

Similar sentiments http://biketrackdayshub.com/throttle-and-turn

[CEO]

I still never managed to get enough turning done on entry. I do think taking the brakes in helps to 'hook' the bike into the turn and get you lined up better for exit. But I always found myself managing exit grip and not turning enough pre-apex. I think I often worried that getting more turning done early requires a late apex line which is not a good line in terms of defending your position during a race. Anyways, probably just one of many reasons I still am not very good lol

[Outlaws Justice]

Spring time and a time to get this fresh in everyone minds again!

[Woodcraft]

Yes, good reminders for sure. There is no better time to burn in new (good) habits than the start of the season. Practicing proper methods for brake application and trail braking are two of the most important things you can do to make your trips around the track faster and smoother. With increase in lean angle, everything needs to be smooth and progressive. It amazing how much you can feel when you couple smooth inputs with proper body position, and that feel gives every rider some of the confidence they are looking for.

[cdovego]

Ken Hill teaches with Nick and both are a wealth of knowledge. Check their site out here --> http://fastersafer.com/