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    Re: Riding in the Zone

    wow the excitement.. is this like the greatest invention since slice bread?

    seriously how advance? is it mostly for track, street, or both? a little summary of the book?

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    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    wow the excitement.. is this like the greatest invention since slice bread?

    seriously how advance? is it mostly for track, street, or both? a little summary of the book?
    Go read the links

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    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    wow the excitement.. is this like the greatest invention since slice bread?
    Lets see... A local guy, who's singlehandedly helped probably 1/4 of the members of this forum become better riders, becoming a published author putting out a national book that can help OTHER riders become better riders! Id say thats a pretty big deal. I was pretty pumped when I got an opinion letter printed in the Lowell Sun, and I spent a whole 5 minutes writing it. I cant imagine the time and effort put into putting out a book like this.

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    ok i see.. thanks.

    "this book was written to help riders find that state of being. It’s the experience of being physically and mentally present in the moment, where every sense is sharply attuned to the ride. Your mind becomes silent to the chatter of daily life and everyday problems seem to dissolve; you feel a deeper appreciation for life. Your body responds to this state of being with precise, fluid movements; you feel in balance, your muscles are relaxed, and it seems as though every input you make is an expression of mastery."

    wow :again: you will develop more senses? this shit is like mediating while riding.

    "while road racing, dirt biking, and even commuting in heavy traffic. "

    what can you gain fron heavy traffic other than frustration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Lets see... A local guy, who's singlehandedly helped probably 1/4 of the members of this forum become better riders, becoming a published author putting out a national book that can help OTHER riders become better riders! Id say thats a pretty big deal. I was pretty pumped when I got an opinion letter printed in the Lowell Sun, and I spent a whole 5 minutes writing it. I cant imagine the time and effort put into putting out a book like this.


    not saying there is no effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post
    Thanks guys.

    It's been quite a project. There is a DVD that comes with the book, which was as huge a project as the book itself.

    It will be sold in bookstores as well as online. I'll also have a supply to sell at Tony's Track Days...and of course I'll sign your books.

    I shot 95% of the photos, so some of you might be in there.
    Will you be in NJ for the 13th? If so...I'll bring cash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Well DUH!

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    Directly buying from me nets me the most $, so I'll be happy to have a supply around to sign.

    Whitehorse Press is the publisher, so I'll have to ask them how it works for specific dealers to retail the book. I'll let you know.
    That's the info I was waiting for. I'll hold out and get one from you personally once you have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    ok i see.. thanks.

    "this book was written to help riders find that state of being. It’s the experience of being physically and mentally present in the moment, where every sense is sharply attuned to the ride. Your mind becomes silent to the chatter of daily life and everyday problems seem to dissolve; you feel a deeper appreciation for life. Your body responds to this state of being with precise, fluid movements; you feel in balance, your muscles are relaxed, and it seems as though every input you make is an expression of mastery."

    wow :again: you will develop more senses? this shit is like mediating while riding.
    If you don't understand what he is saying here then you are missing one ot the things that attacts me most to motorcycling. If Ken can help me find that state more consistantly then I, for one, will plunk down my money.

    ...no - it's not like meditating (I assume you didn't really mean 'mediating') while riding. That assumes the two experiences are separate. It is actually riding as meditation....

    and if you've never experienced that would be a pity....

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    +1, Dave.

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    Ah, my first detractor. Thanks for getting that out of the way Kham.

    The book is really a skills book. The Zone focus is the hook, the reward for learning how to ride better. You've got to remember that most riders aren't like you veteran NESR members. They have yet to discover the benefits of riding skillfully.

    The subtitle of the book says "advanced techniques" but that term is relative. Yes, I talk about body posiitioning and trail braking, but I also talk about countersteering. A lot of you will hear this and say that it's for beginners. But, you'd be surprised how many intermediate riders don't really get counter steering.

    It's targeted toward street riders who I consider advanced beginners up to early experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    Will you be in NJ for the 13th? If so...I'll bring cash!
    I'll be there, but I won't have any books. Theuy won't be in my hands until the end of this year or the beginning of next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    If you don't understand what he is saying here then you are missing one ot the things that attacts me most to motorcycling. If Ken can help me find that state more consistantly then I, for one, will plunk down my money.

    ...no - it's not like meditating (I assume you didn't really mean 'mediating') while riding. That assumes the two experiences are separate. It is actually riding as meditation....

    and if you've never experienced that would be a pity....
    +1 Dave.

    Kham? You fail. Seriously though.

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    Re: Riding in the Zone

    congrats on the great achievement. i like the dvd idea too. sometimes i read this technical jargon and have no idea what it means so the dvd will help. cant wait to get a copy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post
    Ah, my first detractor. Thanks for getting that out of the way Kham.
    welcome.
    am i not allow to question your highness? thanks for clarifying.

    Nix,

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    If you don't understand what he is saying here then you are missing one ot the things that attacts me most to motorcycling. If Ken can help me find that state more consistantly then I, for one, will plunk down my money.

    ...no - it's not like meditating (I assume you didn't really mean 'mediating') while riding. That assumes the two experiences are separate. It is actually riding as meditation....

    and if you've never experienced that would be a pity....
    well if you dont understand what im saying...

    anyway - right here

    "It’s the experience of being physically and mentally present in the moment, where every sense is sharply attuned to the ride. Your mind becomes silent to the chatter of daily life and everyday problems seem to dissolve;you feel a deeper appreciation for life. Your body responds to this state of being with precise, fluid movements; you feel in balance, your muscles are relaxed"


    sounded like a result of meditating. but whatever... was just playing what do i know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    welcome.
    am i not allow to question your highness? thanks for clarifying.

    Nix,
    Sorry if I misunderstood your comments.
    I thought I did clarify what the book is about. What isn't clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post
    Sorry if I misunderstood your comments.
    I thought I did clarify what the book is about. What isn't clear?
    crystal.. said thanks for clarifying.

    the other comment is for other people.

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    well if you dont understand what im saying...

    anyway - right here
    ....that's true for me about 80% of the time when reading your posts....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post

    I shot 95% of the photos, so some of you might be in there.
    Uh-oh... is there a "what not to do" section of this book?

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    Shit... I actually know someone that wrote a book...

    Can I get a TTD t-shirt (I hope there are some larges this time) autographed before the book comes out?

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    Congrats, Ken! I can't wait to get my hands on some cash so's I can get my own autographed copy

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    Oh and Kham... I like to think riding IS like meditating.

    I am also one of those riders that doesn't quite get countersteering. I understand it, I know how to do it, practically I am woefully inadequate. I usually pull on the left instead of push on the right... (I was practicing it yesterday)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Shit... I actually know someone that wrote a book...

    Can I get a TTD t-shirt (I hope there are some larges this time) autographed before the book comes out?
    I've now started stocking Large T-shirts too, so no problem there.

    As for the book, and particularly the paragraph KHAM pointed out... I have definitely experienced that state a few times... mainly while racing... and it was pretty cool.

    Not sure I felt a "deeper appreciation for life" (but that feeling has come to me before on street rides) but I was certainly in another state of mind, so to speak.

    Everything slowed down in my mind, and I could simply do no wrong on the bike. Coming upon lappers, I was able to lay out a plan while they were still 2corners ahead of me, and then execute it exactly. It's like the script was written and all the actors were following it... and I was the lead character that was supposed to slice through them.

    Point is, much of the time I am riding fast on the track, I am working hard and always feeling a bit "behind". Every once in a while though... something clicks and it all goes very quiet in my helmet. I no longer feel/hear my breathing, and all of my body motions seem to happen effortlessly.

    Getting into this state on a nice set of street twisties could be cool too. While it doesn't have to include ludicrous speeds, it could just be a quick pace that seems slow to you, giving you that much more time to predict and act on any outside "surprises"... which won't actually be a surprise to you.

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    I've now started stocking Large T-shirts too, so no problem there.

    As for the book, and particularly the paragraph KHAM pointed out... I have definitely experienced that state a few times... mainly while racing... and it was pretty cool.

    Not sure I felt a "deeper appreciation for life" (but that feeling has come to me before on street rides) but I was certainly in another state of mind, so to speak.

    Everything slowed down in my mind, and I could simply do no wrong on the bike. Coming upon lappers, I was able to lay out a plan while they were still 2corners ahead of me, and then execute it exactly. It's like the script was written and all the actors were following it... and I was the lead character that was supposed to slice through them.

    Point is, much of the time I am riding fast on the track, I am working hard and always feeling a bit "behind". Every once in a while though... something clicks and it all goes very quiet in my helmet. I no longer feel/hear my breathing, and all of my body motions seem to happen effortlessly.

    Getting into this state on a nice set of street twisties could be cool too. While it doesn't have to include ludicrous speeds, it could just be a quick pace that seems slow to you, giving you that much more time to predict and act on any outside "surprises"... which won't actually be a surprise to you.
    Tony, thank-you. You have no idea what you did, but thanks anyway.

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    Well DUH!

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