Tamworth track news.

[rjh200]

Looking at the fees, for 250 bucks a month you get 100 sessions, but they say each session is 1/2 hour?
Still a lot of time, but damn, that seems a bit off to me. Damn the initiation fees are STEEEP.
I wonder how much demand there will be for that? The area isnt exactly a wealthy spot, so basically youre counting on Boston, and seeing how seasonal it is, doesnt seem like people will be FLOODING to it, but maybe Im wrong.

If you can get 5 30 min sessions in a day that is 20 days on the track. Works out to be $150 a day not including the initiation fee. Not a terrible price if you can get the use out of it.

[RandyO]

Looking at the fees, for 250 bucks a month you get 100 sessions, but they say each session is 1/2 hour?
Still a lot of time, but damn, that seems a bit off to me. Damn the initiation fees are STEEEP.
I wonder how much demand there will be for that? The area isnt exactly a wealthy spot, so basically youre counting on Boston, and seeing how seasonal it is, doesnt seem like people will be FLOODING to it, but maybe Im wrong.

wait till construction starts, interest in membership will increase, I doubt they are counting on Boston for members, there's plenty of wealth scattered throughout northern NE

[DucDave]

Looking at the fees, for 250 bucks a month you get 100 sessions, but they say each session is 1/2 hour?
Still a lot of time, but damn, that seems a bit off to me. Damn the initiation fees are STEEEP.
I wonder how much demand there will be for that? The area isnt exactly a wealthy spot, so basically youre counting on Boston, and seeing how seasonal it is, doesnt seem like people will be FLOODING to it, but maybe Im wrong.

Believe me, they are not looking for motorcyclists to buy memberships. It's the wealthy folks with their Lotus', Porches, Ferarri's, Cobras, etc that are just itching for a place where they can run the way they are meant to be run. VIR operates the same way and you should see all the cars that are kept there.

So, aside from the 1 or 2 Desmosedici owners in New England, the membership will be made up of wealth sportscar owners. And that's GOOD for us! Cus there will be a lot of track days available for the various Motorcycle Track day vendors!

[Pittenger5]

Yah, I guess when you do the math it adds up decently.

[Rumble]

This new track is definite but I don't think motorcycles were in their model plan.

Palmer Motorsports Park

[DucDave]

This new track is definite but I don't think motorcycles were in their model plan.

Palmer Motorsports Park

Hey you old lurker!!! Figures this would bring you out of the wood work! Never heard of this track but you're right...doesnt look like bikes are anywhere in their master plan....

[hammadown]

Well the scoop on Palmer is they couldn't get approval if they included bikes (or at least they weren't willing to risk it). Its just the stereotype that the general public holds, unfortunately. From what I have heard, they are starting with cars and down the line, once they establish a bit of a track record, they MAY entertain the idea of motorcycles. Basically one step at a time, and hope they can show the town its not a huge disruption, and actually beneficial.

[Ken C]

Unless I missed something, the Tamworth website seems to be careful not to mention RACING at all. So, even though track days are likely, LRRS or some other racing organization may not be allowed. ??

[Trackday Guru]

Unless I missed something, the Tamworth website seems to be careful not to mention RACING at all. So, even though track days are likely, LRRS or some other racing organization may not be allowed. ??

I'm sur ethat will get worked out in the process. No sense having a racetrack built that you can't race on

[highsider]

I'm sur ethat will get worked out in the process. No sense having a racetrack built that you can't race on

Actually, I think that is exactly their plan.

I had a lengthy conversation with one of the founding members (Dan Croteau) of this fiasco *ahem* racetrack, and he says that is exactly their vision. They want to have a country club setting where people can come and run their cars around the track, with one or two auto races a year to maintain a level of prestige.

He very specifically told me that they did not especially care for motorcycles, and would only open the track up for track days until they were financially able to stop doing so.

Back then he was going to cut me a "sweet" deal for $5,000 for a low level membership; I think they've gone up considerably since then.

[Ken C]

It's the same with the Palmer track-- no racing, just club and school events (cars only).

[TTD]

He very specifically told me that they did not especially care for motorcycles, and would only open the track up for track days until they were financially able to stop doing so.

Gotta love this.

The car guys bitch that they are being "discriminated" against by the town folk... but they have no problem turning around and doing it to the bad motorcycle riders.

[DucDave]

Actually, I think that is exactly their plan.

He very specifically told me that they did not especially care for motorcycles, and would only open the track up for track days until they were financially able to stop doing so.

Interesting....VIR is the same business model. Except they seem to have embraced motorcycles, including AMA racing. Don't you think that if the pure 'Car Club' economic model worked that they'd have done the same thing? Fact is, VIR has a log of motorcycle track days. Well see how CMI works out....

[OreoGaborio]

Gotta love this.

The car guys bitch that they are being "discriminated" against by the town folk... but they have no problem turning around and doing it to the bad motorcycle riders.

It's because we don't rip up the concrete enough to be cool

[akira700]

It's because we don't rip up the concrete enough to be cool

Pete I thought you were good at ripping up concrete?

[Degsy]

Interesting....VIR is the same business model. Except they seem to have embraced motorcycles, including AMA racing. Don't you think that if the pure 'Car Club' economic model worked that they'd have done the same thing? Fact is, VIR has a log of motorcycle track days. Well see how CMI works out....

Don't expect to see VIR in AMA roadracing for too much longer. They love the motorcycle guys, but they don't make enough/anything on an ama weekend.

As for Tamworth. Trust me when I say this. There WILL be Penguin school up there (they have already been in talks with the Woods). There WILL be LRRS rounds run at that track, and there WILL be track days for motorcycles there, too. Once they see the money to be made, that money will talk. I have talked to the landowners, the developers and some members on this and they all confirm that stuff. I was at the official opening of the track land and at the groundbreaking ceremony. I have walked the track area and it's STEEP!!! It will be an absolutely spectacular...and quite technical motorcycle track if it is ever built.

[hammadown]

As for Tamworth. Trust me when I say this. There WILL be Penguin school up there (they have already been in talks with the Woods). There WILL be LRRS rounds run at that track, and there WILL be track days for motorcycles there, too. Once they see the money to be made, that money will talk. I have talked to the landowners, the developers and some members on this and they all confirm that stuff. I was at the official opening of the track land and at the groundbreaking ceremony. I have walked the track area and it's STEEP!!! It will be an absolutely spectacular...and quite technical motorcycle track if it is ever built.

I think I have a semi It would be fantastic to have a few tracks in NE if all the potential projects pan out.

[a13x]

Just wait till the France's get control of the AMA this week.

[Doc]

Don't expect to see VIR in AMA roadracing for too much longer. They love the motorcycle guys, but they don't make enough/anything on an ama weekend.

As for Tamworth. Trust me when I say this. There WILL be Penguin school up there (they have already been in talks with the Woods). There WILL be LRRS rounds run at that track, and there WILL be track days for motorcycles there, too. Once they see the money to be made, that money will talk. I have talked to the landowners, the developers and some members on this and they all confirm that stuff. I was at the official opening of the track land and at the groundbreaking ceremony. I have walked the track area and it's STEEP!!! It will be an absolutely spectacular...and quite technical motorcycle track IF it is ever built.

Fixed it.