Tire wear and riding technique

[obsolete]

So my rear tire has pretty much no strips but my front has a good 1/2 inch to inch of strip. What would cause this? Or is it impossible to tell from the given information?

[seth399]

cuz they have different cross section/radius

[Woodsy]

you will hit the limit of the rear before you do on the front, therefore, perpetual chicken strips. it is the rear tire that counts! if you are stressing over it scrub it in ( like actually get on your knees and scrub the tire).

[Jaynnus]

[The Snowman]

Plus, you turn your bars to corner (countersteering, hopefully) and that changes the way the tire contacts the ground.

[Jaynnus]

Which is it...are you turning your bars or countersteering??

[The Snowman]

Which is it...are you turning your bars or countersteering??

Well, you turn your bars to countersteer, just in the opposite direction of the turn.

C'mon, trick question.

[Doc]

I'd have to say your not using the front because your entry speed is lower than your exit speed...

Also your lean angle is most likely less...

[BostonSVkid]

If you are wearing your rear tire to the edge on the street then you are A) riding really hard or B) riding with horrible body position. Get your ass off the seat.

[Doc]

you will hit the limit of the rear before you do on the front, therefore, perpetual chicken strips. it is the rear tire that counts! if you are stressing over it scrub it in ( like actually get on your knees and scrub the tire).

No chicken strips front OR rear on my bike... Go figure.


and yes it has seen the track.

[The Snowman]

No chicken strips front OR rear on my bike... Go figure.


and yes it has seen the track.

I heard that you can't really ride anyway.

(do I have to give the Guinness back?)

[Doc]

You must be really fast. Cause your were flying when I passed you.

[a13x]

Weird. My tires is worn all the way to the edge, around the rim, and halfway to the valve stem. Must not be leaning over enough

[obsolete]

I'd have to say your not using the front because your entry speed is lower than your exit speed...

Also your lean angle is most likely less...

This makes a lot of sense. I tend to keep my speed fairly nominal until I can see through the whole turn and then push harder.

SVkid: As far as I know I get off the seat pretty good. I think Doc hit it with the exit speed / entry speed theory cause it matches what I do through turns I can't see all the way through, which is most around here. Not to mention my much less than perfect technique.

[Woodsy]

No chicken strips front OR rear on my bike... Go figure.


and yes it has seen the track.

i though so, i was refering to street riding. i think (not sure) that on the track you can get it even since you can set up for the turn and really ring the piss out of it. street=front chicken strips.

[CEO]

This thread is funny.

Tire wear depends very much on the size/profile/aspect ratio/etc of the tire as well as various charateristics of the bike...

But it general it is standard for there to be more chicken strip on the front of the tire than the rear. The front usually has a steeper profile than the rear requiring more lean to get rid of the strip.

Also, the rear is usually slightly more squatted at max lean since you are lightly on the gas...?

I imagine if you trailbrake very deep that would encourage less front chicken strip... anyone?

[RandyO]

If you are wearing your rear tire to the edge on the street then you are A) riding really hard or B) riding with horrible body position. Get your ass off the seat.

the edge of the tire comes off quicker than you think if you ride a lot, the street is not a race track, yer ass belongs on the seat

[kbroderick]

No chicken strips front OR rear on my bike... Go figure.

Doc, the YSR doesn't count.

[keeena]

Before taking the ARC, my FZ1 (street bike) had KFC-sized strips in the front (20mm?) and 3-4mm in the back. After the ARC I had no front chicken strip and 2mm on the rear.

2 things that I noticed:
-Since the class focused a lot on body position, I would like to think that I'm cornering w/ better technique. Debatable tho. Haha.
-I had originally set good sag #'s. But during the course we determined that my front comp damping was WAAAAY too high. We backed it out quite a bit.

One or both of these likely contributed to a more even wear pattern. Bike setup and technique do seem to play a significant part.

[Jim]

This thread is funny.

your face is funny

[Lxpony]

Before taking the ARC, my FZ1 (street bike) had KFC-sized strips in the front (20mm?) and 3-4mm in the back. After the ARC I had no front chicken strip and 2mm on the rear.

2 things that I noticed:
-Since the class focused a lot on body position, I would like to think that I'm cornering w/ better technique. Debatable tho. Haha.
-I had originally set good sag #'s. But during the course we determined that my front comp damping was WAAAAY too high. We backed it out quite a bit.

One or both of these likely contributed to a more even wear pattern. Bike setup and technique do seem to play a significant part.

Keeena- post a pic of your front tire for everyone to see

[Ken C]

It's because of the difference in the front and rear tire profile/shape/cross section. It also depends on the size tire and rim relationship. Steering geometry may even play a role, but it really has not much to do with riding technique.

When I raced, the Dunlops had no chicken strips front or rear, but the michelins left huge strips on teh front; same lap times and riding technique.

FYI, my rear has zero strip, my front has about 3/8" on my 636 with Pirelli Corsa 3s.

Maybe Karaya can chime in.

[bigred875]

my front tire always has some kinda "strip" on them before i do a track day and none after...i figured it had to do with how hard i was driving into the corners...maybe a little psi factor as well... i don't charge into corners hard on the street

[keeena]

It's because of the difference in the front and rear tire profile/shape/cross section. It also depends on the size tire and rim relationship. Steering geometry may even play a role, but it really has not much to do with riding technique.

When I raced, the Dunlops had no chicken strips front or rear, but the michelins left huge strips on teh front; same lap times and riding technique.

FYI, my rear has zero strip, my front has about 3/8" on my 636 with Pirelli Corsa 3s.

Maybe Karaya can chime in.

What would explain my relatively major change in the front tire and virtually no change in the rear? Only reason I can think of is that the front profile would be more triangular than the rear...meaning the front is progressive whereas the rear is more linear to approach the edge (if that makes sense). Tires on my FZ are Pilot Roads (1st type, not the 2CT).

Not saying you're wrong, just curious.