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I have paid enough into my insurance to cover my bike twice.
I wouldn't feel guilty if I were to use it if I crashed on my bike.
However; i've never crashed on a track, so my comments are irrelevant.
Wow...Just fucking WOW..
Dude, Just fix your bike, you walked away Scott free for the most part in this cluster fuck of a situation.
Last edited by FireboltEric_MA; 10-10-10 at 10:45 PM. Reason: Yea, I'm FUCKING Bitter!
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Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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Well not withstanding all that stuff, I still dont see the problem using insurance. Its not like this was excluded and he's trying to commit fraud. And really, whats the point of insurance if youre not gonna use it.
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I agree I did walk away scott free compaired to you,but thats because i sold my soul to the devil to be his rider... you went through insurance yourself, but because my accident wasnt as severe i should suck it up and let the insurance company give me a dirty sanchez...yea,not gonna happen....hoping my sarcasm detecter is just failing here![]()
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Update:
The claims woman (C U Next Tuesday) never told her boss(person who denys people) about her convorsation with my agent. I guess she expected my to just accept that they werent covering me.
Long story short, called her up, and very politely asked for the person "in charge of her". Talking to her boss(who is the person I should have been talking to in the first place)I started to get the bosses explanation of why I was denied. He explained that when I am on a track dressed like a racer, that I am basically racing. Also informed me that they have had a large number of problems with other clubs, like the "porsche club" trying to get their race set up cars paid out with insurance so they have been putting their foot down...
I said "so if i am on the track I am automaticly racing?" He said something like as far as the insurance is conserned unfortunatly yes.
The turning point:
I told him I am prepaired to take this as high up as i need to either in the company or legally based on the insurances failure to act in good faith twords me. He politely told me that he believes the law is more on their side then mine. I asked him as a person how he could sit there and tell me that I am not covered when I was told I would be. He didnt have a clue as to what I was talking about. We then had a long convorsation about my suspicions that his underling had not been properly informing him in all aspects of my case, and was just mostly rude and unhelpful from the get go. After my rant about how much his employee sucked, I told him that my agent had a long talk with her about this basically being his fault for not seeking clarification before telling me I was covered. He asked to place me on hold while he confirmed this with my agent. Sure enough he gets back on the phone and tells me he needs to talk to some people and that my agent confirmed what i had told them.
My agent calls me and tells me he still cant believe they are playing hardball and that after finally talking to someone that has pull I should finally be found covered.
So i have to send in a notorized statement from myself stating I was gaurentied coverage from my agent prior to the event. Hopefully that is the last hoop i have to jump through.
/rant off
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"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
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IMO, if you take the plate off your bike, you should no longer be insured.
Hopefully though, your insurance company will back what its agent said it would.
(so, when doing a track day, keep the plate on)
Most require you to take it off.
And insurance companies only do 2 things.
1. Take in as much money as possible
2. Pay out as little money as possible.
I think if they spent 1/10th of what they do on advertising we would all be paying about 1/2 of what we do now. Thus, I dont give a shit about them.
Theoretically (LOL) If a duly authorized agent makes a verbal statement it is binding as a contract.
Do wacka do wacka do
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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thats the big thing here, my agents not even going to get a slap on the wrist. He will be told to make aware that arbella doesnt pay out for situations like this in the future. I would have never went to the track on a bike i still owe money on, if i knew i wouldnt be insured. So if he said hell no wordtooyomamma we don't cover that shit...I would say "O Rly?" and he would say "Ya Rly" and i would have never gone to the track on my 09 gixxahOriginally Posted by 07BladeRider
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2 lessons learned here:
Get that shit in writing.
Gsxrs are lame
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Close your eyes, look deep in your soul, step outside yourself and let your mind go.
And you would be a poorer rider for it.I don't think insurance coverage should stop you from going to the track. It is alot safer and better monitored than the street and if you are not an idiot you have LESS of a chance of an accident on the track. (alot of street factors are removed) IMHO.
Thank god your agent said you were covered and is sticking to his word.![]()
Last edited by Doc; 10-23-10 at 07:09 PM.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
EX# X
Whats your insurance going to cost you next year .
if your looking for a cheap bike i just picked up a mint 03 R6 from some poor bastad in ct, thing looks brand new and runs mint
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you need to stop buying bikes and buy my suitOriginally Posted by burtonboarder23
, im going to go the track bike route in the spring