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    Interested in building a motard

    I want to put together a bike to race the motard class. I have two bikes in the garage now, and its going to be one of them. I have got a 95 WXE610 husqvarna with about 12 original hours on it, and a 09 KX450F. I'm leaning towards the Husky because of the 6 speed gearbox,the bigger motor and the fact its too much bike for the woods. I could use the KX, but I have already dialed it in so well for the woods, I hate to undo the work I have already done. I also have a auto clutch in the KX, anyone ever run one on the race track?
    Any reason not to use the 610? It is technically almost the exact same as the TE570 they were selling in 2002. Thanks for any feedback, Tim

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    I'm no motard guy, but I'd have to say the husky is probably not the better of the two for the track.....

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by 7.62gigawatts View Post
    I'm no motard guy, but I'd have to say the husky is probably not the better of the two for the track.....



    The KX450 for sure

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    I can't find any specifications, but the mags from the era show it competing against the XR600, so I suspect it's going to be a porker compared to a modern 450. It'll likely do ok for Novice work, but you'll need something lighter by the time you get white and black number plates.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Thats surprising, I thought it would have been a good candidate, but I don't know. Thats why I asked. Your right, its heavy, about 255-260lbs. Thanks Tim

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    The site is down tonight. But supermotojunkie.com is a good bet to get answers for that question. The Husky has a rather large piston. But a guy does race a Husqvarna 630SM RR at Loudon. If you do use the 610 you want to gear it high to take advantage of its massive torque and to keep the revs down. The KX450F is a Kawasaki ??? 4 stroke motocrosser??

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    If it's 250lbs or less, hammer it!

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    The site is down tonight. But supermotojunkie.com is a good bet to get answers for that question. The Husky has a rather large piston. But a guy does race a Husqvarna 630SM RR at Loudon. If you do use the 610 you want to gear it high to take advantage of its massive torque and to keep the revs down. The KX450F is a Kawasaki ??? 4 stroke motocrosser??
    Yes, the KX is a mxer. I love the fuel injection on the KX, smoothest motor I have ever had. Tim

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Hands down the best way to get into a motard is to buy one already built.
    Converting a dirtbike isn't as easy (or as cheap) as it seems.
    That said, definitely the 450. You'd have a lot of trouble getting the '95 610 set up properly. Nobody's gonna have parts for it.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Would I start as a novice, I didn't know if it would stir stuff up that I have raced offroad for 13yrs as a expert, but only have 3000 miles on the street under my belt. I wasn't sure where I would fit in.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    The site is down tonight. But supermotojunkie.com is a good bet to get answers for that question. The Husky has a rather large piston. But a guy does race a Husqvarna 630SM RR at Loudon.
    if we are talking about the same guy...not anymore he blew the engine

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    To quote PK, I "went in too hot and ran out of talent".

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by lrrs699 View Post
    if we are talking about the same guy...not anymore he blew the engine
    Yup, Brian 501 popped his engine

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by netra709 View Post
    Would I start as a novice, I didn't know if it would stir stuff up that I have raced offroad for 13yrs as a expert, but only have 3000 miles on the street under my belt. I wasn't sure where I would fit in.

    Yes, you'd still start as a novice

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    Yes, you'd still start as a novice
    Cool. I miss the novice days.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Yup, Brian 501 popped his engine
    he is running a 900ss now

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    To quote PK, I "went in too hot and ran out of talent".

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    You could buy a nice Aprilia SXV, add a little safty wire and start the next race weekend...you can even have a race bike with a warranty for the rest of the season

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Yup, Brian 501 popped his engine
    Brian has a 510. The guy I am talking about has a Limited Edition Eddie Seeles Replica. Blue and Yellow. This guy is a expert. BTW it is for sale.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Mike View Post
    Hands down the best way to get into a motard is to buy one already built.
    Converting a dirtbike isn't as easy (or as cheap) as it seems.
    That said, definitely the 450. You'd have a lot of trouble getting the '95 610 set up properly. Nobody's gonna have parts for it.
    I agree. No matter what get all the brake you can afford.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    Brian has a 510. The guy I am talking about has a Limited Edition Eddie Seeles Replica. Blue and Yellow. This guy is a expert. BTW it is for sale.
    I guess we should let brian know about it....

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    Brian has a 510. The guy I am talking about has a Limited Edition Eddie Seeles Replica. Blue and Yellow. This guy is a expert. BTW it is for sale.
    Is that Graham's bike you're talking about?

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by lrrs699 View Post
    I guess we should let brian know about it....
    Brian is fast enough.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

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    Brian is fast enough.
    or maybe we wont.....

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    Is that Graham's bike you're talking about?
    That's what I was thinking too... 'Cause there can't be two of those things around.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    You'd be wasting your time making the WXE into a motard. Maybe it'd be a decent trackday toy but would get stomped as a competitive motard racebike at LRRS. Also the 6-speed gearbox isn't ideal, the 5-speed is mint at Loudon (coming from a guy that races a 4-speed) Too much shifting with the 6'er.

    The KXF450 is the way to go (or any other modern MX 450).

    Minimum items you need are:
    17" wheels - 3.25F and 5.0R
    Upgraded front brake rotor (preferable to add aftermarket caliper along with)
    Catchcans
    Barkbuster-style handguards
    Safety wire


    Come on out and join the fun Check www.twowheelsteals.com for some nice deals on parts. Calipers, rotors, etc.

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    Re: Interested in building a motard

    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    17" wheels - 3.25F and 5.0R
    Is there a noticeable difference on a tard between a 155/4.25 vs 165/5 setup?

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