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I was in the LWSB race and I kinda noticed the front of the Ducati kinda slid all the way threw 9. It didn't feel planted and I didn't feel like I could power through the way I wanted. I felt it a little in 11 and 1 as well. Any long corner really.
Front Tire pressure was 28 cold, would get to 30-31 hot.
Any ideas? Got a fix? I hadn't felt this before, of course I was going a good 4 seconds slower...![]()
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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"Twist it, you pussy."
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I have been told that if your front is not moving yet, you're not going fast enough - Especially through 9.
Neal Mulcahy
LRRS/CCS #427 ECK-Racing 2009
Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Moon Performance | Motorcycles of Manchester | BostonMoto-Pirelli
So your saying I am starting to get fast?I bet I can fix it with some suspension tweaking.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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Mmmm, I'm not sure that's a productive idea. Holding the bars too tight is still 99% reason for all slides, front and rear. The faster I got through nine, the better the front hooked up on my 125.
Now in the end, it's possible to relax enough to carry so much speed that the bike will drift both ends before fully hooking up, but that's out of reach for 99% of the riders 99% of the time.
Better to focus on getting it hooked up. just good basic riding technique and having a good "map" of the corner will get you there.
Have PK do his push/pull routine & if the problem persists, do what I do.... ignore it and ride through it![]()
-Pete
NEMRR #81 - ECK Racing
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'03 Tuono | '06 SV650 | '04 CRF250X | '24 Aprilia Tuareg
Ok so I need to relax more and probably work on my body position through there then.
It was predictable and seemed to "push" no matter what I did. I will work on it before I start fiddling with suspension.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
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Same here! Dragging hard parts means less weight for the suspension to have to deal with.
2021 KTM Duke 890 R
2020 BMW R1250GS Adventure Exclusive
1982 Honda CB750F Super Sport
1:23- 1:24's
http://www.lrrsracing.com/results/20...n/Sun13Lap.pdf
Michael Lemire #116 2nd place!![]()
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
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I've found that when I'm running 1:25s I get SEVERE chatter through 9. At 1:21s I have no chatter at all.
Just go faster.
-Pete
NEMRR #81 - ECK Racing
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'03 Tuono | '06 SV650 | '04 CRF250X | '24 Aprilia Tuareg
what tires are you using on that bike? Also what kind of chatter is it?? Is it sliding or hopping??
G-man
Gerard
well my ex likes to somtimes slide the front out, then the back, then the front, and then it comes back and the rear wheel lifts up then the amazing horsepower brings the front up. i've found that if you feed it carrots right after the apple, it calms it down. just my imput. hope it helps.
Lrrs# 997 Ameture
03 DUCATI 749S(Race)
06 Chevy Cobalt SS
I have the PP race softs. It is not chatter it felt like sliding or pushing.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
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Those tires are good but the front is a little vague until you get to full lean angle. Are you sure that is not what you are feeling... Plus those bikes need to be stood on their head to get any feeling out of the front end. That frame is the same as my bike so you probably need a TON more ride height...
Just my .02
G-man
Gerard
I was told this before by Kyle Thompson of BCM. Thanks for confirming
I changed the bars from clip ons to Helibars for a shorter reach, Iam sure this didn't help much.
Looks like I can increase the ride height a bit as well. I am gonna have to stop by Garage 15 in October.
And know I wouldn't call it "vague" but I guess I could... really felt like it was just barely starting to slide, like if I pushed it more it would slide out.
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
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Scott
1990 Honda Hawk NT700 (rebuilt?)
2012 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (retarded fun)
4 seconds slower? twist the throttle and get the weight off the front, you're scrubbing too much speed and overloading it, then making it worse getting nervous and tightening up your muscles and getting into a nervous body position.
It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?
No No No... 4 seconds FASTER....
I wanted to go faster but felt if I twisted it that it was gonna slide out. I think I need to hang off more, with the Hawk I get my knee down all through 9, with the Duc it is taller so more difficult to do, plus the same body position might not work.![]()
"I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"
Bikes: Ducati: 748 (Track) Honda: RC31 (Race/street)/ CRF 110 Mini Moto/ Hawk Endurance Racer Kawasaki: ZXR1200R
BOMO Instructor
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