lap timers.

[QuarterGig]

what do people use for lap timers?

what do people reccomend for a lap timer?

is there a specific feature i should look for so it is compatable with the becon at NHMS?

[BLACK SQUIRREL]

I bought one of this XT Mini-lap things Works perfect $100

[Pittenger5]

I just picked up the same one after seeing Dans in action. Up to 115 now though. Also takes watch batteries and not AA or AAA.

[nt650hawk]

I use the free one in Garage 7.

[QuarterGig]

I use the free one in Garage 7.

yah i keep missing the sheets for practice though.

the race time i get off the web site after the fact.

[Pittenger5]

yah i keep missing the sheets for practice though.

the race time i get off the web site after the fact.

They keep the practice times all weekend, they just put them in the a box on the floor by the time boards, so you can see them after practice is over as well.

[QuarterGig]

They keep the practice times all weekend, they just put them in the a box on the floor by the time boards, so you can see them after practice is over as well.

oh... i guess i r dumb

[Crash Dummy Denno]

i dont even bother looking at practice times - i always take it too easy in practice - anyone else?

i'm a grower not a show-err

[BMFR6]

i dont even bother looking at practice times - i always take it too easy in practice - anyone else?

i'm a grower not a show-err

so you are practicing to go slower???

in reality, i've noticed that people that say this, generally push pretty hard in practice and don't want to admit it. they just can't turn race pace times in practice because they don't have the adreniline going that usually pushes them out of their comfort zones during a race. in the end they are just riding over their heads during a race and hoping for the best.

the faster "experienced" guys will generally run lap times in practice that are fairly close to their race pace. they aren't depending on adreneline to lap fast, they are depending on their reference points.

not saying that this applies to everyone or specifically you denno, just putting it out there as food for thought.



edit: and to keep this on topic, I second the XT. will do what you need.

[QuarterGig]

at this point I run the same practice or not..
i am one of the slow ones out there 1'34 is my best time. and it is getting better every weekend.

i like having data to tell me that i am acctuly improving.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

so you are practicing to go slower???

in reality, i've noticed that people that say this, generally push pretty hard in practice and don't want to admit it. they just can't turn race pace times in practice because they don't have the adreniline going that usually pushes them out of their comfort zones during a race. in the end they are just riding over their heads during a race and hoping for the best.

the faster "experienced" guys will generally run lap times in practice that are fairly close to their race pace. they aren't depending on adreneline to lap fast, they are depending on their reference points.

not saying that this applies to everyone or specifically you denno, just putting it out there as food for thought.



edit: and to keep this on topic, I second the XT. will do what you need.

i dont think i completely agree - while i do use adrenaline during the race (everyone does, if you say no you're not human or BSing)

I try to pick spots in practice where I'm struggling and work those areas... my biggest concern with throwin hot laps down is I dont want to throw it away in practice as i think that's a huge waste! am i way off base here?

[Pittenger5]

The reason I got a lap timer is cause if Im running 1:30s in practice, I generally feel pretty good, until I see hte lap times, then I think well I coulda pushed harder. If I can see I'm running 1:30s DURING a session Ill try to push harder and deeper (giggity) and bring my times down more.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

i dont think i completely agree - while i do use adrenaline during the race (everyone does, if you say no you're not human or BSing)

I try to pick spots in practice where I'm struggling and work those areas... my biggest concern with throwin hot laps down is I dont want to throw it away in practice as i think that's a huge waste! am i way off base here?

nm go here to discuss
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...tml#post544782

[nt650hawk]

I find my practice times to be about 1-2 sec slower than a race pace. Try diferent things in practice to see if it works out. I can usually tell when my shift points are slightly different and or rpm's are different (I start to hit the rev limiter coming into turns).

There are times I could force a pass in practice but I hold back for both our sakes. Save it for the race. I love playing with the big bikes.

[Paul_E_D]

A laptimer is an important and powerful learning tool. I could not have gotten as fast as I did without it. The realtime feedback allowed me to see the results of new techniques, and of mistakes. 20 minutes after practice I have no idea what I did on lap five that made me go half a second faster...

[CEO]

I bought one of this XT Mini-lap things Works perfect $100

Don't you also need a beacon of some sort? Or is there a universal beacon everyone uses?

Sorry I'm not really up to speed on how the timing works...

[Paul_E_D]

Thea beacons are universal and there is usually one out there from friday-sunday running off a car battery. It's nice to have your own for those times when no one puts it out there.

[CEO]

Thea beacons are universal and there is usually one out there from friday-sunday running off a car battery. It's nice to have your own for those times when no one puts it out there.

So for the races, does everyone have to register their lap timer or something, so that the times can be extracted?

[BMFR6]

nothing to extract. the timer is on your bike and maintains the data. i'm sure somebody more technical than me could explain, but simply put the timer on your bike jut keeps time, when you pass the beacon it starts a new lap. this is why everyone complains when somebody throws out another beacon somewhere.


the transponders you get a registration are what is used for the official times. what you choose for a lap timer has no impact on that.

[RyanNicholson]

So for the races, does everyone have to register their lap timer or something, so that the times can be extracted?

they give you a transponder at registration that you have to mount to your bike

[CEO]

nothing to extract. the timer is on your bike and maintains the data.

So people's lap times and finishing positions from the races are based on their personal lap timer data? Maybe I'm missing something...

[BMFR6]

nope, i was adding more to my post above sorry.

the transponder you get at registration is what is used for the official race times. your own personal lap timer has no impact on the transponder and even if you have your own lap timer, you still need to have a transponder on your bike.

[CEO]

Ahh I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.

Do you have to pay for the transponder? Do you buy it once, or is it kind of like the restaurant pagers and you give it back each time?

[RyanNicholson]

Ahh I understand now. Thanks for the explanation.

Do you have to pay for the transponder? Do you buy it once, or is it kind of like the restaurant pagers and you give it back each time?

like the restaurant pagers....its all part of registration as long as you return it to the gate when you leave the track.

if you take it with you however, they charge your card like $300 and you are the proud owner of a personal transponder

[BMFR6]

well, you give them a credit card number at the beginning of the season and that covers you to use the tracks transponder. pick it up when you register, drop it off when you leave. loose it and they charge your card.

you can buy your own if you want and just register it at the track but they run like $300+ i think and then you are responsible for it being in good working order and charged every weekend. i dont see the value.