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Novice Index and Points position.

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    Novice Index and Points position.

    So I had some spare time this AM and I did some math just for fun.

    First I computed the points standings for the 3 races I race in.

    I am currently in 4th for the ULSB Novice points! (Would be in first if I hadn't DNF'ed last race)

    I am also 4th in the LWSB Novice points!

    Both of these classes have a guy above me who advanced to Amatuer so that is one guy I will most likely pass.

    I am 17th in the LWSS Novice points.

    If anyone wants to know where they are at in those point areas I have a list.

    My index sucks at 0.304. Not that I am looking to move up any time soon, I just would like it a little better. (It's hard to make it up)

    With all that I am wondering if I should drop LWSS? The bike is technically not legal for the class, I was just using it for more tracktime and something to do on Saturday. I know more peps in that class and find it fun but my finishes haven't been stellar considering the number of people usually in a race. Plus it is FULL of SV's!

    I really think I am gonna drop it and then I can cornerwork Saturday and race Sunday. Maybe my index will come up a little then as well.

    Your thoughts?

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    Novice Index and Points position.

    There are no points in the novice class.

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    It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    There are no points in the novice class.
    there are points, but no championships AFAIK

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    Novice Index and Points position.

    Well whatever... it is just nice to know where I am at amoung my peers

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    do they keep track of amature points? the race loudon page only looks to be tracking expert championship

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    Previous years they didn't list points for novice. They had an "amatuer championship" listing before, last year they changed it to an "amatuer achievement". This year there's nothing.

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    It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Previous years they didn't list points for novice. They had an "amatuer championship" listing before, last year they changed it to an "amatuer achievement". This year there's nothing.
    so amatures are racing for their own improvement? nothing at the end of the season? lame... very

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    Novice Index and Points position.

    Just like us novices.

    I say we take up a collection and give out or own awards.

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    if im not getting anything for AM then why award points? and does that mean i dont have to move up next year? what kind of racing organization doesnt give awards for AM.

    and Doc..im the NV Thunderbike champ 2 years in a row

    drop races that are bringing down your average. if that is a concern for you. if you dont care about advancement and all you want is tracktime then run whatever you want.

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    The only place in the 2007 rulebook that puts "Amateur" and "Championship" in the same sentnce is this:

    "Any amateur rider that wins a championship will be automatically advanced for the following year"

    Asside from that it's all Expert stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    drop races that are bringing down your average. if that is a concern for you. if you dont care about advancement and all you want is tracktime then run whatever you want.
    True... at my level track time is important.... Hmmm.... think, think, think,

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGitorio View Post
    The only place in the 2007 rulebook that puts "Amateur" and "Championship" in the same sentnce is this:

    "Any amateur rider that wins a championship will be automatically advanced for the following year"

    Asside from that it's all Expert stuff.
    but if there are no championships given out then how do you make someone advance to EX?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    but if there are no championships given out then how do you make someone advance to EX?
    This is what I was wondering....... I'd like to think I'm leading the AM ULSB class, but if the points mean nothing, how will I advance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stupidhawk007 View Post
    This is what I was wondering....... I'd like to think I'm leading the AM ULSB class, but if the points mean nothing, how will I advance?
    Well if there is no championship, you can't win it and they can't make you advance. They can only force you to advance if you have the minimum number of races and higher than a .750 index at the end of the year.

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    It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    They can only force you to advance if you have the minimum number of races and higher than a .750 index at the end of the year.
    ding ding ding we have a winner.

    i just want them to post the correct results from race 12a this weekend. it comes up as 2a.

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    instead of worrying about your index or your position worry about your technique, your riding. novice stock-motored hawks have run consistent 23's in past years. if you were running 24's you'd be trophying (or winning) in every novice lightweight race you enter.

    concentrate on riding better and everything else will happen.


    and dont even think about saying things like "those old hawk novices were <this> or <that> and that's why they put down those times". it's bullshit and you know it. given the track time there's no reason you can't put down those times as well. just continue to make small improvements and shift the motorcycle A.D.D. to a different topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Previous years they didn't list points for novice. They had an "amatuer championship" listing before, last year they changed it to an "amatuer achievement". This year there's nothing.
    Douche if you are going t quote me in your sig at least spell my name right it's BEAURIVAGE

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmbbikes View Post
    Douche if you are going t quote me in your sig at least spell my name right it's BEAURIVAGE

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    Thats a story I think I need to hear. Post up, bitch.

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    Then I guess I'm not first in points without the drop, 2nd with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smf View Post
    instead of worrying about your index or your position worry about your technique, your riding. novice stock-motored hawks have run consistent 23's in past years. if you were running 24's you'd be trophying (or winning) in every novice lightweight race you enter.

    concentrate on riding better and everything else will happen.


    and dont even think about saying things like "those old hawk novices were <this> or <that> and that's why they put down those times". it's bullshit and you know it. given the track time there's no reason you can't put down those times as well. just continue to make small improvements and shift the motorcycle A.D.D. to a different topic

    Your just jealous because I am beating you! :

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    i reiterate:

    Quote Originally Posted by smf View Post
    concentrate on riding better and everything else will happen.

    regarding this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Your just jealous because I am beating you! :
    i've only completed 1 race weekend this season, you better be.


    and i'll save you the embarrassment of posting up my best time from my first weekend ever at loudon

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    Quote Originally Posted by highsider View Post


    Thats a story I think I need to hear. Post up, bitch.
    About a year ago my mom's gave me a file she had been holding onto from my high school days with report card, disciplinary report, the whole works.

    Well on of the disiplianry reports read, and i quote "Keith was deliberatly adjusting the belt sander out of adjustment to cause damage to it. When I asked him what he was doing, he told me to suck his dick "

    Fuckin wood shop man. What else we got to do but cause trouble, make birdhouses, wooden bowls, and get high. The funny thing is i was mentioning this in front of my nephew who is 11 and when I did I said S my D instead of SUCK my DICK, cuz you know i like to set a good example!!!

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    You can still get plaques / trophies in novice and expert right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smf View Post
    i've only completed 1 race weekend this season, you better be.

    and i'll save you the embarrassment of posting up my best time from my first weekend ever at loudon
    Embarassment? Everyone knows I am slow. It is no secret.

    Oh and "consistency wins championships" :

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