Wtb: grom

[Kurlon]

I'm torn on that one, oil slingers are messy and fiddly to deal with compared to a filter, but damn are they effective.

[Jim]

I'm torn on that one, oil slingers are messy and fiddly to deal with compared to a filter, but damn are they effective.

2.5 pounds of rotating mass removed off the crank.

[xrocket21]

$300 for a real filter, 2.5 pounds rotating mass removed? No brainer.

[Jim]

$300 for a real filter, 2.5 pounds rotating mass removed? No brainer.

and the OEM honda filters are like $5. i've ordered them at dealerships and on amazon.
makes changing oil a breeze. no longer dealing with the screen and the risk of needing a new gasket for the clutch cover.

[MattR302]

Groms have a real oil filter with a common clutch cover that's about $330. most Grom fans have them.

here: https://store.hardracing.com/grom-og...om-sf-in-stock

Oh I know; I’ve got one waiting to go on my Monkey.
It’s not a negligible cost though, especially when you’re considering $2500 motorcycles, and the fact that the Green one comes with one already.

[sdog30]

Might as well put my two cents in.

The grom/z125 is the prefect pit bike. Other than that...

They feel very similar, btw. I like the styling of the z125 better.

[Vovchandr]

Might as well put my two cents in.

The grom/z125 is the prefect pit bike. Other than that...

They feel very similar, btw. I like the styling of the z125 better.

It has its uses if you're not stuck with using the highway to get anywhere. It's perfect around town or in general suburbs. 6K miles @ 100mpg has its benefits.

[Jim]

i ride mine around town all the time. it's great for pit bike uses, which was my original intent. then i started riding to get lunch from the track and not taking my car. then it became a street/pit bike.

I agree with Sam that the looks of the Z125 are better. Working on any Honda will steer you away from them as they all suck to wrench on. But there is no aftermarket or much resale desire for the Z125. Groms seem to dominate the market.

[RandyO]

i ride mine around town all the time. it's great for pit bike uses, which was my original intent. then i started riding to get lunch from the track and not taking my car. then it became a street/pit bike.

I agree with Sam that the looks of the Z125 are better. Working on any Honda will steer you away from them as they all suck to wrench on. But there is no aftermarket or much resale desire for the Z125. Groms seem to dominate the market.

I wish there were more tire options for the 17" wheels the K-Pipe has, there are plenty of 12" tire for the Grom & Z, most aftermarket pit bike stuff will fit the K-Pipe

[Jim]

I wish there were more tire options for the 17" wheels the K-Pipe has, there are plenty of 12" tire for the Grom & Z, most aftermarket pit bike stuff will fit the K-Pipe

12" wheel is considered a scooter wheel. so there was already a decent market for that size.

[ducatirdr]

I was told by a friend that bought a 2022 Grom and then a 2022 Z125 and currently runs them both. (one is the guest bike) The feedback was that the suspension on the Z125 was superior to the Grom. Better bump absorption and less pogo.

[sdog30]

I was told by a friend that bought a 2022 Grom and then a 2022 Z125 and currently runs them both. (one is the guest bike) The feedback was that the suspension on the Z125 was superior to the Grom. Better bump absorption and less pogo.

Your grom and how you rode it made me want to get one...boy was I disappointed when I rode a stock one. Lol

Too bad it costs as much as it does to build the one you had. Gunner got a hell of a deal.

[Jim]

I was told by a friend that bought a 2022 Grom and then a 2022 Z125 and currently runs them both. (one is the guest bike) The feedback was that the suspension on the Z125 was superior to the Grom. Better bump absorption and less pogo.

it's common to put a Z125 shock on a Grom as a poor man's upgrade. I did this until I bought Ohlins.

[Stoneman]

I *SO* wish I had a use for wunna these. Good luck on your search Sav!

[RandyO]

it's common to put a Z125 shock on a Grom as a poor man's upgrade. I did this until I bought Ohlins.

YSS is another option

[xrocket21]

I *SO* wish I had a use for wunna these. Good luck on your search Sav!

I wouldn't fit on one of them very well, but I sure would like to try one!

[Jim]

YSS is another option

YSS is crap. i think they're $125-$150 and arent serviceable. so when the oil is worn, you throw it out and buy another.

i've said on the grom group a few times "friends dont let friends buy parts on Amazon"

[OneCheekRider]

it's common to put a Z125 shock on a Grom as a poor man's upgrade. I did this until I bought Ohlins.

I'm sure this is a silly question since I have a z125, but was it that bad to warrant the upgrade to Ohlins? The stock Z suspension is just fine for the around-town stuff I use it for, but even if it was worse I couldn't justify upgrading as a % of vehicle cost and intended (street) use.

I'm happy to throw Ohlins in my trackbike, Touratech in my ADV, and other suspension mods on my other bikes but I just can't see upgrading the 125.

[RandyO]

YSS is crap. i think they're $125-$150 and arent serviceable. so when the oil is worn, you throw it out and buy another.

i've said on the grom group a few times "friends dont let friends buy parts on Amazon"

like other manufacturers, the have more than one grade of shock, mine is serviceable, and cost a little over $300, came from Thailand, but from what I have learned, it originally came from their Netherlands facility, and I didn't buy it on Amazon or ebay

[sdog30]

like other manufacturers, the have more than one grade of shock, mine is serviceable, and cost a little over $300, came from Thailand, but from what I have learned, it originally came from their Netherlands facility, and I didn't buy it on Amazon or ebay

That's what they tell you. Lol

There's a different Chinese kid that puts the made in Thailand sticker on.

[MattR302]

Here’s a relatively cheap OG for sale
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...5338712570690/

[RandyO]

That's what they tell you. Lol

There's a different Chinese kid that puts the made in Thailand sticker on.

Traction Dynamics is the US service center for YSS shocks https://traxxion.com/yss-products/

[sdog30]

Traction Dynamics is the US service center for YSS shocks https://traxxion.com/yss-products/

Specialized bikes are out of California, but their frames are manufactured in Taiwan. All the low displacement KTM's are made in India even though the company is Austrian. Just saying.

[sdog30]

It's sort of like driving a lifted Tundra with a huge tattered American flag that was made in China hanging out the back while bitching about how Biden ruined everything. Lol

[Jim]

I'm sure this is a silly question since I have a z125, but was it that bad to warrant the upgrade to Ohlins? The stock Z suspension is just fine for the around-town stuff I use it for, but even if it was worse I couldn't justify upgrading as a % of vehicle cost and intended (street) use.

I'm happy to throw Ohlins in my trackbike, Touratech in my ADV, and other suspension mods on my other bikes but I just can't see upgrading the 125.

the Z125 shock was a temp fix as the one that came with my bike was a fake amazon special with no oil. even the adjuster knobs were plastic and part of the unit.
the Z125 seemed ok and did its job, but i did notice better handling when i got my Ohlins. the spring was set up for my weight and i noticed it raised the rear a bit. i got my ohlins shock when they were discontinuing that model and dropped the price to $349. looking back, i would still do it again.