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^ what he said... Another great All Mountain is the Salomon 1080's line (use to be just two ski's now it's a whole line up with 6 different ones)
I run orininal 1080 at 171 there is no where I wont point them down. I ski mostly at Sunday River but i've run them at every resort and trail in the North East over the last 10 years including Med River Glenn and they stood up to every challenge.
I'm toying with the idea of making my own... You can but the stuff to make a press at home depot that these guys use. they show you how to make the cores (detailed plans) and they have different models for different types of skiing and they test them and give you reviews on the feel of them.
SkiBuilders.com <-- this link is to an actual ski they make called the Klown Wacker as an example. there are more ski's on the left.
I also agree with the statment below, I've been wanting to try Telemark skiing as well. We need to get a NESR ski day in sometime. I'd lvoe to get a bunch of people out on the slopes.
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if you're spending money on prophets i'd look into the rossi experience 88's too. lots of reviews saying they're the best all mountain ski out there.
Dave
'04 R6
check out this site. lots of good reviews: http://www.epicski.com/
I have a pair of Volkl P 30 race carvers for sale . They are 184 cm in lenght . Never been used , never been mounted . Orange in color . Private message me for more details .
Those look wicked nice. I just might have to buy a new set this season. My 1080's have so many days on them.
I also find that race ski's are just too much of a workout for a fun day on the slopes IMO, I already blow everyone away skiing on my 1080's and the others don't suck i just like taking longer GS style carves (it give me the feeling like taking a nice long carving turn on the bike) and they get me going very fast very quickly.
I couldn't imagine waiting anymore than I already do for people at the bottom.
I need some ski boot recommendations.
Don't need anything crazy, just an intermediate & comfortable, not breaking the bank pair of ski boots.
(also maybe some thoughts on boots to stay away from)
'02 F4i
In all honesty, the Atomics that were listed above would have been a great way to go. Great ski and unbeatable price.
I personally picked up a pair of Atomic Smoked Ti's and love them. Great all mountain ski for mostly east coast skiing (read ice), but can handle some west coast skiing on occassion (read powder).
Spend the money on boots, not the skis. That's what makes the most difference.
Skis have gotten considerably shorter. FIS GS ski length is 185cm so unless you plan or ripping big arcs through Olympic gates a 184 is too long. Look more in the 165-175 range.
Boots are rated by their stiffness. Go above a 100 stiffness and you're going to get maximum control of your skis but it's unlikely you'll be able to leave them buckled for more than a single run. Below 100 stiffness you'll be warm and comfortable all day long.
if you are going to be skiing on the east coast - find something for skis that has early rise in the tip and tail and traditional camber underfoot. get a ski with a waist of minimum 90mm. Old school fat skis were not torsionally ridged, but the new ones are - so you can carve like crazy and leave deep trenches, and have the ability to have better float in pow. If you do choose a ski with early rise or rocker, make sure you choose a length longer than you normally would.
I telemark ski. PSIA calls it 'nordic', it shares the same free heel as skate and classic nordic techniques.
Gimmick. A rocker ski doesn't hold on ice, period. I find the best way to sort out the BS is to look at the race models from the current year. You won't find serrated edges or rocker models in any race model. That's a pretty big heads up right there.
That doesn't mean I'm against rocker technology and I have an absolute blast on my Rossi S7s but you'll never hear me saying they're a good ski for New England white ice. They carve the pow, crud and even fresh corduroy but once that's gone I toss them back in the rack and drag out the traditionally cambered shape skis for finishing the day off.
Yeah i have skis....just looking for some recommendations for ski boots now
'02 F4i
What size shoe do you wear?
Magnatraction works for snowboards but not so much for skis.
Race models with rocker or serrated edges? You are on crack if you are waiting for that. Racers need full edge contact and camber so they can get their edges into the IMPREGNATED ICE/SNOW that they race on.
Full rocker skis are harder to get an edge in on ice, but if you can't get your s7 to carve on ice, it is a technique issue. Vertical sidewalls and camber underfoot = carve.
I have been out of the game too long to give valuable input. I still have my all mountain boots -- can't remember the brand off hand, but they were comfy and good in almost anything. I also have my Lange race boots, probably the best piece of equipment I ever owned, but I had to push the hell out of them to really make them shine.
For boots - even if you are going to buy online - go to a shop and try different brands of boots on. Each brand has a different fit, and some have different fits in different lines of boots. By putting your foot in it you will save a lot of time and pain. For all day comfort - Look for a boot with a thermo-moldable liner, and something with a 100-110 ish flex, and if you can spend a little more - find a boot with a walk mode.
+1 on the trying-on advice. Spend the extra money at a shop that can help fit you properly. I went as far as using custom orthotics back when I was racing -- they were shockingly helpful...
I finally got real pediatrist made orthotics this year, and holy cow - what a difference it has made! The support is unreal! If you don't want to throw down the cash for orthotics, spend the $50 bucks or so for a "Sole" footbed. Unlike "superfeet", The Sole are fully moldable and give great support. When i was working in killington, we sold them and had the Dr up the road recommend his patients to come down grab a pair.
I'm not on crack and I'm not waiting for a rocker race ski. My point was that the race community isn't usually fooled by gimmicks so if we don't see a rocker mentioned in the race models, it's for a reason. Shape skis on the other hand are popular for slalom so therefore are not a gimmick.
My slalom skis carve great and give awesome rebound. My GS race skis carve great and give awesome rebound. My S7s carve only underfoot and offer diddly squat for rebound. The cambered portion offers about the length of a snow blade for carve and rebound so I think it's a lot more than technique keeping the s7 from being labeled a "hard pack carver". Additionally with the tips and tails being soft and full rocker they flex uncontrollably on hard pack snow. Out west and across the pond they're the only ski I travel with and I'll ski them all day. But here in New England where the snow strips off to the base layer by 1pm, I'd never recommend the s7 to replace a quiver. The good news is that Rossignol has realized there's a real problem and are now offering the Super 7 with two additional sheets of titanium to stiffen it up. Unfortunately I bought last year.
+1 on custom foot beds!
Need some input-
Looking to get some twin tip skis.
Im 6'3", and was looking for skis around 176-ish. I do mostly all mountain skiing but am looking to get more int the park (thus getting twin tips).
I found a KILLER deal on a set of twin tips...but they are 181's....any thought on the extra length? Would it be that big of a difference?
'02 F4i