my first crash....

[oVTo]

i dont wish for anyone to crash, but if they did i would keep my comments to either genuine wishes of well being, or not say anything at all if i thought they were being stupid, why give someone shit if they already knew they fucked up...
and yup i fucked up either way, wont stop me from speeding. I dont find it fun to go 35 on a bike when there is a mile of straight road in front of me, the only thing im getting out of this crash is to know the road before you tear it up...

One small point - that works only as far as you can see. For corners that you can't see through, even if you've been through them 100 times, it's safest to assume that there's a truck parked just beyond the furthest point you can see.

That's not a comment on being stupid or f*ing up, it's just advice to help in the future (worth what you paid for it). Since it's advice not criticism, I think I'm still allowed to say - I'm glad both you and the bike are OK!

[BLACK SQUIRREL]

not the riding part that was the problem, i agree i should have scouted out the road a bit before i opened it up, but no matter how experienced you are shit happens. can everyone here say that they dont speed? i think not, next time you crash i will make a smart ass comment and then say glad your okay....

Bottom Line, you Got on a Bike and rode past your abilities. It was not a smart ass comment it was the truth.

I know your looking for a pity party But sorry, Learning how to handle you bike will save your life. There is always something just popping up at of nowhere all the time. thats the nature of the machine. its how you deal with it is what matters.

[jc.cyberdemon]

no one has told this guy to slow down on public roads and do track days?

glad you're ok. my street crash was ugly. we've all been there.

i rarely speed unless i feel it is safe to do so...it was 6:30 in the am down a backroad with no traffic on what looked like a perfect stretch of road to open it up on, grass to the left and right no stone walls and trees where at least 100 feet away from the road on either side. when you say "public" road i think of a road used heavily by cars and this is not such a road,the road is pretty much hidden unless you know exactly where to turn onto it, ive passed it many times but never went down it until today....but now i will stop defending my actions and i will just leave it at that.

[OreoGaborio]

For what it's worth, Dan, I agree with ya... but at the same time the guy knows what he did wrong. You don't have to sound cold to make a point that he already got.



Frankly, I think it's kinda ridiculous that every "I crashed... it sucked but I know what I did wrong" thread turns into a lecture. Sometimes I fall into that trap, but I try not to be cold about it.

[sandman]

not the riding part that was the problem, i agree i should have scouted out the road a bit before i opened it up, but no matter how experienced you are shit happens. can everyone here say that they dont speed? i think not, next time you crash i will make a smart ass comment and then say glad your okay....

the riding part is the problem, or more specific the slowing and stopping part.

if it wasn't you would had hammered the front brake scrubbed off the speed needed to take the corner.

you have no business even using the rear brake!

oh and what were you in 1st gear? you weren't even going fast.

now if you said i was going 165 and had to slow to 80 to make the corner then yes you were going fast.

glad to hear your ok, but you need to learn how to ride and stop your bike.

shit does happen but i wish i had a dollar for every time iv'e read or heard about someone going to fast and locking up the rear brake.

[Jim]

Frankly, I think it's kinda ridiculous that every "I crashed... it sucked but I know what I did wrong" thread turns into a friggin lecture.

same thing happened to me when i put up a thread about my street crash. and i'm sure this guy is the only one on this forum that's ever went speeding and crashed on the street.

[sandman]

Bottom Line, you Got on a Bike and rode past your abilities. It was not a smart ass comment it was the truth.

I know your looking for a pity party But sorry, Learning how to handle you bike will save your life. There is always something just popping up at of nowhere all the time. thats the nature of the machine. its how you deal with it is what matters.

well put!

"Learning how to handle you bike will save your life."

[BLACK SQUIRREL]

For what it's worth, Dan, I agree with ya... but at the same time the guy knows what he did wrong. You don't have to sound cold to make a point that he already got.



Frankly, I think it's kinda ridiculous that every "I crashed... it sucked but I know what I did wrong" thread turns into a lecture. Sometimes I fall into that trap, but I try not to be condescending.

I would rather this then a Random RIP thread.

[OreoGaborio]

same thing happened to me when i put up a thread about my street crash. and i'm sure this guy is the only one on this forum that's ever went speeding and crashed on the street.

Of course. No one on here would EVER do anything as horrible as that... JC should be ashamed of himself!

[jc.cyberdemon]

yeah locking up the rear brake was my problem, I know what i did, there really wasnt enough time to react to what was happening just a kind of oh shit moment. but whatever im not looking for pitty just wanted to tell a story of how my morning went, Ill try practicing crashing more often maybe that will help overcome human instinct. but enough of shitting on the kid who doesnt know how to ride lets talk about titties!

[OreoGaborio]

I would rather this then a Random RIP thread.

Let me put it this way... when I'm teaching people how to ride, which I kinda do on a fairly regular basis, I never act like a condescending dickhead, not even if they make a mistake that can get them killed out on the street.

You don't have to be a condescending dickhead to make a point and teach people something that can save their life.


Not saying you're being a condesceding dickhead in this case (yet), but I'm trying to make a point...

[Cheese]

Glad you get a second chance. Heal up quick!

[Jim]

hey Pete if he was on an EX500, he wouldn't have crashed

[SRTie4k]

Wasn't there a discussion about track riders and elitism only a couple weeks ago?

I can't imagine saying things like "learn how to control your bike better" actually helps someone learn anything.

[OreoGaborio]

hey Pete if he was on an EX500, he wouldn't have crashed

THANK YOU!

An SV650 is way too big of a bike for the street. You'll never use all the brakes.

[BLACK SQUIRREL]

Okay, let me put it very simply... when I'm teaching people how to ride, which I kinda do on a fairly regular basis, I never act like a condescending dickhead, not even if they make a mistake that can get them killed out on the street.

You don't have to be a condescending dickhead to make a point and teach people something that can save their life.


Not saying you're being a condesceding dickhead in this case (yet), but I'm trying to make a point...

I save up all of my Dickheadness for NESR.

Lighten up petey

[OreoGaborio]

Lighten up petey

Did you just call me fat?

[BLACK SQUIRREL]

THANK YOU!

An SV650 is way too big of a bike for the street. You'll never use all the brakes.

Pete another lie from you.

This is how you use ALL an sv's Brake Power

[jc.cyberdemon]

not to drag this on but i have been on the track and when i went off the road it reminded me of seeing at least three people on the track doing the same thing, seeing that they are going to not make the corner and panicking, locking up the brakes and going down into the grass. so yeah it happens, i do know how to ride just not at a race level....80 mph isnt race level its highway speeds...

[OreoGaborio]

Oh man, that picture is so awesome (knowing that you got up & walked away). That was crazy to watch happen in person.


Yeah but you weren't on the STREET... You were on the TRACK where nothing ever bad happens.

[RyanNicholson]

....80 mph isnt race level its highway speeds...

Damn... I need to pick up my pace in some corners then.

Glad you're alright.

[jc.cyberdemon]

okay i wont do it ever again, from now on i will only abide by the law, except for the drugs, hookers, tax fraud, and anal sex( depending on what state you live in)....

[RyanNicholson]

okay i wont do it ever again, from now on i will only abide by the law, except for the drugs, hookers, tax fraud, and anal sex( depending on what state you live in)....

I was just crackin a joke man haha. We've all been through similar shitty situations before. Sounds like both you and the bike faired pretty well all things considered which is awesome. Can't complain with a cheap lesson learned.

[McBiggity]

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not the riding part that was the problem, i agree i should have scouted out the road a bit before i opened it up, but no matter how experienced you are shit happens. can everyone here say that they dont speed? i think not, next time you crash i will make a smart ass comment and then say glad your okay....

the riding part is the problem, or more specific the slowing and stopping part.

if it wasn't you would had hammered the front brake scrubbed off the speed needed to take the corner.

you have no business even using the rear brake!

oh and what were you in 1st gear? you weren't even going fast.

now if you said i was going 165 and had to slow to 80 to make the corner then yes you were going fast.

glad to hear your ok, but you need to learn how to ride and stop your bike.

shit does happen but i wish i had a dollar for every time iv'e read or heard about someone going to fast and locking up the rear brake.

Hammer the front brake?
No business using the rear?
Love all the experts here on NESR.

[jc.cyberdemon]

honestly i walked away with just a scrape, it was kind of fun actually a quick shot of adrenaline, a laugh after the fact, and a lesson in not freaking out...not to mention all the kind words of advise from your peers.