Drinking & riding

[bigred875]

2 wheels 2 beers

[beet]

Me I need ta chug a 6 of beer has nothing.

[KillBill]

I have been known to ride after a beer, but I never have more than one, and it is always with food over a long span of time. I am less strict with myself in the car, but like Pete, I drive like a little old lady to try and make up for any slowed judgment I have.

I don't make a regular practice of either behavior, but honestly, I feel I can handle one drink over lunch and still ride safely. If I did not, then I would not. I often have a DD with me, so the car is rarely an issue, and I will most likely not drink and touch anything with a motor this year, as my tolerance is all weird now due to pregnancy/baby.

[Cerberus]

when i owned a bike and we did our wednesday night hooters meets down here, i used to hang out for 2-3 hours, have 2 beers and food in that time and ride home without concern. Yes, i felt effected slightly, (surprisingly.. since i weigh in in the 250s), so i would ride home as a commute, not aggressively.

I think the way you ride can matter significantly. You can choose to ride intelligently and defensively, or ride aggressively. I used to love riding aggressively on the street when i was sober, but after any drinking i went to "driving miss daisy" mode.

the rule i adopted from a friend of mine is that you can only have as many drinks as you have wheels.
bike = 2 drink max
car = 4 drink max
then you can apply the processing time of your liver and duration at the place.
if the math gets too complex, you've had too many.

and of course the practicality of this falls apart if you drive an 18-wheeler...

[Sheppo]

Max on the Bike is 2 ( over a period of time ) I wont shot gun two drinks and ride.
I am usually the first one that hands my keys off.

[Devil1]

One with dinner.

[kb1]

If I'm at a cook-out or something I'll have one or two...with a LOT of food...wait two or three hours before I ride home. No way will I down a beer or two and hop on and take off.

The cage is another thing...maybe two or three...sometimes four. I trust my judgement, and I don't want to kill someone or myself. If I know I'm going to drive I always keep myself in control drinks wise.

[DucDave]

I used to trust my judgement. Problem is, first thing to go when under the influence is judgement...

And of course, when your judgement fails, you don't say to yourself, "Oh, my judgement may be impaired." When your judgement fails you say to yourself, "I'm fine. No problem."

At least...thats how it worked for me!

[bump909]

One or two at most.. but hardly ever. That is, on two wheels.

[out thumped]

Yes, I will have beers and I will ride sometime after that. I will usually also be sitting down for a long meal, hanging out with friends, and/or watching movies for many hours in between the two tasks. I certainly wouldn't plant myself at a bar, booze up, and then get on the road.

Will I ride while impaired? No.

Can I even tell? Yes, I think so. I have a brain and I use it enough that I start to recognize when it stops working right.

Things I will do drunk: Walk. Get a car ride from a non drunk. Ride my bicycle.

How my impaired reflexes will most likely kill me: Getting run down by some fucking taxi driver while crossing the street in Central Square.

Also: I have some serious reservations about people saying "I would never ride after drinking, but I would drive my car." So you do not trust your judgment about being impaired on the road with a motorcycle and doing yourself in, but it might be acceptable to be rolling those dice in a cage and do somebody else in (quite likely a biker) while you are in nice cushy airbags?

I totally agree, drinking in a car is potentially worse than on a bike.
I drink at home or my wife drives. Just not worth it.
OT

[gixxersixxer]

Car I will still drive if I've only had a couple but I don't drink at all with the bike. I don't even bring the bike to parties so I am not tempted.

[Cerberus]

I used to trust my judgement. Problem is, first thing to go when under the influence is judgement...

And of course, when your judgement fails, you don't say to yourself, "Oh, my judgement may be impaired." When your judgement fails you say to yourself, "I'm fine. No problem."

At least...thats how it worked for me!

thats why i went to the maximum number system.
no judgment involved.
and if you lose count or can't do the math, its last call.

[butcher bergs]

I usually drink till I feel a good buzz going, imbibe 2 more drinks and then set off for wheelies and kneedragging. Sometimes I feel like I'm in a video game!

[Jim]

anyone remember in Zip Tie Alley 1st weekend of LRRS this year

i couldnt even walk my bike out of the garage

[Doc]

Also: I have some serious reservations about people saying "I would never ride after drinking, but I would drive my car." So you do not trust your judgment about being impaired on the road with a motorcycle and doing yourself in, but it might be acceptable to be rolling those dice in a cage and do somebody else in (quite likely a biker) while you are in nice cushy airbags?

Let's look at this a little more closely.

What is harder to drive? An Automatic car or a stick?

What is harder to drive? A stick car or a motorcycle?

In a car I have a steering wheel, a brake and a gas pedal.

On a bike I have a clutch lever, shifter, Front brake lever, rear brake pedal and throttle. Plus I have to balance the friggin thing and remember to put my feet down at a stop...

I think riding a bike is ALOT more difficult and even a slight impairment would drastically affect the way I handle it.

Actually lets be honest. It HAS affected the way I handle a bike. I can drive a car tanked, (not very smart, nor very well but it has happened) I can't operate my motorcycle tanked. (well I operated it enough to "ride" 100ft and do a burnout in front of a bonfire on a piece of beer soaked plywood one night at a party but that wasn't on the road )

[e30addict]

anyone remember in Zip Tie Alley 1st weekend of LRRS this year

i couldnt even walk my bike out of the garage

that's because it was still strapped down in the truck

[RandyO]

a drink is a drink wether yer in a cage or on 2 wheels, just cause yer on 4 wheels instead of 2 your not any less drunk

if your limit is 2 for 2 wheels, then it should also be 2 for 4 wheels

in reality the limit should be zero if there are any wheels involved

Beet, how many drinks did I have last week before I headed over the hill? I forgot, but I think that's my answer

[Pittenger5]

I find it humorous that a number of people here will have a few if youre in a cage, but NEVER on the bike.
So driving while impaired of a 3500 pound vehicle is acceptable, but the same level of impairment on a 350 pound vehicle is off limits.

That said, Ive been known to have one or two but I try to not make a habit out of it.

[GNTurbo6]

One easy rule to remember. Eight or less and you're fine to drive.

[beet]

a drink is a drink wether yer in a cage or on 2 wheels, just cause yer on 4 wheels instead of 2 your not any less drunk

if your limit is 2 for 2 wheels, then it should also be 2 for 4 wheels

in reality the limit should be zero if there are any wheels involved

Beet, how many drinks did I have last week before I headed over the hill? I forgot, but I think that's my answer

Ding ding ding^^^ Who are you guys worryed about yourself or others?

[toocrazy2yoo]

Never did on the bike, or in the car. The ramifications are too severe in a legal sense. The penalties are too draconian, and besides, who wants to be the dumb fucker that hits someone, hurts or kills someone, even after one lousy beer? What's the point? Knowing you're driving or riding, is the drinkie really all that important given the ramifications?

Sheeit, I've been subject to my contracting agreements and urinalysis issues the last 15 years, but fact is, a couple of tokes of weed is less intrusive on the senses and coordination than booze, but weed is where they put the emphasis on law enforcement. But, like the legal and political and legislative motivations behind insurance/speeding/points/surcharges, when it comes to less-intrusive drugs and party materials, you have to follow the money when it comes to the law. Who stands to profit? On the road, insurance companies, The Council on Drug Awareness profits from keeping what they don't market illegal and what they DO market common and prescribed by the Doctors that are their dealers on the street . The consortium of distillers, brewers, and pharmaceutical companies that show us "your brain on "illegal" drugs" as a fried egg, while ignoring Micheal Jackson and Elvis and dozens of other icons, and millions of average peeps on the Demerol, dalliudid, vikes, and a hundred other "legal" precription drugs "legal" pushers (doctors) push and profit from, and of course, the enormous toll imposed, and not just out on the roads, of alcohol. It's reprehensible on every level, these hypocrisies.

Nonetheless, there's no fool like a drunken or drugged fool once they throw a leg over the seat of a bike or jump in the car after a few pops. The ramifications are just too severe in so many directions and effects on your life, or at the very risk of yours, or someone else's life, to bear inspection. So why do it?.

[Rambunctous]

I love the high I get on the grid from adrenaline. It enhances my senses.

[Danno]

never on the bike.

I've been to bars on the bike but would just have soda/water. My harley and squid friends bust my balls all the time about it..... you have to live with your choices.

I've got friends who bust my balls about wearing gear.

The key word here is we live with our choices.

[Fitz]

Since my weight and my ability to process alcohol doesn't change whether I'm behind the wheel of a car or the clip ons of a bike, I don't drink any more or less regardless of what I'm piloting that day.

Fitz

[obsolete]

Half past 5 I'm in the pub
Six O'clock It's home for grub
Eight O'clock I'm back to the bar
Sod the walk I'll take the car

Knock it back
Have another one
Drinking and driving is so much fun
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Drinking and driving is so much fun

In the motor off you go
Not too fast and not too slow
Keep your head and keep your cool
Must avoid that rightful pull

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Drinking and driving is so much fun
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Drinking and driving is so much fun

As you meander down the road
Don't forget your highway code
See the spot and take your pick
Out of the car or to be sick!

Knock it back
Have another one
Drinking and driving is so much fun
Knock it back
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Drinking and driving is so much fun
Knock it back
Have another one
Drinking and driving is so much fun
Knock it back
Have another one
Drinking and driving is so much fun