New England, we ROCKED the vote!!!

[Woodsy]

being that we now have a black president, it is plainly clear that black people have all the same opportunities that everyone else has, so i propose the abolishment of black history month, the united negro college fund and any other black/african centric exclusive organizations on the basis of their being inherently racist in their inception.

all in favor?

this would also have to be extended to abolish Saint Patrick's Day, re-zoning of the north end of boston, the end of Columbus Day and Thanksgiving, the closing of plymouth plantation, and the killing of every major holiday tied with religion due to their racist or otherwise exclusionary practices. all in favor?

[vfr99999]

we are so fucked

Why do you think we are in trouble we now have a president who was endorsed by Hamas,Hezboula,Hugo Chavez,Momar Kadaffi,The PLO and Fidel Castro What is the problem?

[ThisBitch]

being that we now have a black president, it is plainly clear that black people have all the same opportunities that everyone else has, so i propose the abolishment of black history month, the united negro college fund and any other black/african centric exclusive organizations on the basis of their being inherently racist in their inception.

all in favor?

So one black president (who is actually only half black) in 200+ years is sufficient to prove that black people have equal opportunities in the US? I disagree.

[eboos]

So one black president (who is actually only half black) in 200+ years is sufficient to prove that black people have equal opportunities in the US? I disagree.

Given the leaps this country has made in progress towards equality, I would say that there is equal opportunity for the equally qualified. There are a few people on this board that in their lifetime there was open segregation. Some of our history may still sting in the people that have experienced it, but things have changed quite a bit.

[bigred875]

So one black president (who is actually only half black) in 200+ years is sufficient to prove that black people have equal opportunities in the US? I disagree.

thats funny....there were a lot of old school civil rights activists on the news last night saying the exact opposite...

..and by a lot i mean 2 at least on the local news in RI..true story!

[DesmoTull]

I agree. President-elect Obama will be our 44th president and deserves our respect and support. He won a smashing victory yesterday.

Funny, these are the same people in this great "Commonwealth" that have been saying "he's not MY president" for the past 8 years.

[Woodsy]

thats funny....there were a lot of old school civil rights activists on the news last night saying the exact opposite...

..and by a lot i mean 2 at least on the local news in RI..true story!

that is because it is the White Man's TV! If they had been white civil rights activist there would have been hundreds

[DesmoTull]

What dog racing needed was reform, oversight and getting proper people involved, not to be banned.

If you've ever owned a greyhound (rescue or not) or any other dog that loves to run... they love to run. It's what they do.

The problem was people raising these dogs (like people raising pit bulls to fight, or any other of a thousand animal cruelty situations) that was the problem. Not dog racing itself.

It's going to be a huge chunk of revenue gone, say hello to higher taxes!

Methinks alot of those greyhounds were treated better then the people that crate train their dogs and leave them locked up in that, or a house all day while they are at work...

[Kham]

sure safe the dog.


"all white people must report to the cotton field for orientation..." -thanks for the forward.

[gixxer72]

Funny, these are the same people in this great "Commonwealth" that have been saying "he's not MY president" for the past 8 years.

+1

[gixxer72]

So one black president (who is actually only half black) in 200+ years is sufficient to prove that black people have equal opportunities in the US? I disagree.

Does this also apply to women, asians, hispanics....? Exactly how many black presidents will it take if one isn't enough to prove it?

[ThisBitch]

Does this also apply to women, asians, hispanics....? Exactly how many black presidents will it take if one isn't enough to prove it?

It has nothing to do with anyone getting elected to any office. You can't say that just because 1 person was elected to office, things are equal.

The first black congressman was elected in 1928. Things certainly weren't equal then and they aren't now. You live in New England. Go to Texas or really anywhere south of the Mason/Dixon and its a much different story.

[akira700]

I say no tax breaks for cro-magnon men !
Free money for everyone else.

[RandyO]

being that we now have a black president

not until January 20th, until then, GW is in charge

[Kham]

I say no tax breaks for cro-magnon men !
Free money for everyone else.

free lottery... why work for it if you can get it free. people do crazy things for a buck.

gimme gimme gimme...

[eboos]

Funny, these are the same people in this great "Commonwealth" that have been saying "he's not MY president" for the past 8 years.

That's just one of the things that seperates them from me. I have served under 2 presidents, and have met one of them. The first one wasn't my choice of president, but he deserves no less respect.

[Cerberus]

not until January 20th, until then, GW is in charge

moot point. he was elected, therefore he is the president elect.
unless he ceases to live before january 20th, he will receive all the power of the office.

and the point is not whether or not he has the power, but the fact that he was elected.


i should move to a red state.. i'm tired of feeling like the odd man out..

[eboos]

Go to Texas or really anywhere south of the Mason/Dixon and its a much different story.

Where, you meen like Virginia, North Carolina, Florida...

all of these are typicly Republican states. If there was wide spread racism, why didn't McCain win over any Democrate states? It's over. It has been over for a while now.

[Cerberus]

Where, you meen like Virginia, North Carolina, Florida...

all of these are typicly Republican states. If there was wide spread racism, why didn't McCain win over any Democrate states? It's over. It has been over for a while now.

mostly you are right, but there are still some small cells of intense racism IN BOTH DIRECTIONS..

[bigred875]

It has nothing to do with anyone getting elected to any office. You can't say that just because 1 person was elected to office, things are equal.

The first black congressman was elected in 1928. Things certainly weren't equal then and they aren't now. You live in New England. Go to Texas or really anywhere south of the Mason/Dixon and its a much different story.

wow...now you are just following old stereotypes...how much time have you spend below the mason dixon line? After living there for almost 5 years and the rest of my life in NE i can tell you 1 thing for sure...the racism is FAR worse in new england. i use 2 measures to back up my reasoning, the loval governement and what i call "wink wink nudge nudge" conversations. take a look at the local governments...far more diverse in the south... the "wink wink nudge nudge" conversations where people of the same race talk shit about another race...this is the most sickening and telling if you ask me. I didn't notice this as much until i moved back and am still shocked at what i here from people who claim they arent racists. And after all that, I still say without a shred of doubt we are not a racist society.....does a poor black kid need to work harder then a rich white kid in a good family to get ahead? yup...but the same is true for that poor white trailer park kid vs. the rich black kid from a good family... you can plug in any race or color into that equation and get teh same result..it's all about money and the good ole boy network...life sucks but thats the truth

but sure keep up the white guilt ..keep beating the drum to the same old tune jackson and sharpton play...someone needs to pay for their custom tailored sutis, limo's and private jets....

the only race problem we have in this country is people not moving forward and accepting 2 things

1. - EVERYONE is racial...it is human nature get over it. How you let those "racial" feelings control your actions decides whether you are a racists or not. as a country..we are NOT!

2. - the supposed "race" problem we have in this country is a farse..it is a class problem. the poor stay poor and the rich get richer. There are no white activists like jackson/sharpton running around trailer parks in middle america crying about the plights of the poor white trailer trash so people often forget about them.

[RandyO]

he was elected, therefore he is the president elect.

yes, president elect, NOT president as you posted in your first post

[Cerberus]

yes, president elect, NOT president as you posted in your first post

semantic fucking detail!
the point is he was elected president!

put away your microscope and pay attention to the actual question at hand, not some nit-picky irrelevant redirection

[RandyO]

semantic fucking detail!
the point is he was elected president!

put away your microscope and pay attention to the actual question at hand, not some nit-picky irrelevant redirection

its not a matter of semantics, until such time that he hs sworn in, he is not president and doesn not deserve to be called anything other than president elect, George W Bush is still president

[Cerberus]

its not a matter of semantics, until such time that he hs sworn in, he is not president and doesn not deserve to be called anything other than president elect, George W Bush is still president

holy crap you are thick

POINT:

1. he was elected
2. unless he dies, he will be the president on Jan 20(or so)
3. these two points are evidence to the afore mentioned fact that apparently anyone can achieve the highest office in the land
4. hence, any racially biased organizations are not 'equalizers' anymore, they are offering an unbalancing effect of an upper hand to persons of one race
5. therefore, they are blatantly racist

[Kham]

oh quiet you racist you...

wow...now you are just following old stereotypes...how much time have you spend below the mason dixon line? After living there for almost 5 years and the rest of my life in NE i can tell you 1 thing for sure...the racism is FAR worse in new england. i use 2 measures to back up my reasoning, the loval governement and what i call "wink wink nudge nudge" conversations. take a look at the local governments...far more diverse in the south... the "wink wink nudge nudge" conversations where people of the same race talk shit about another race...this is the most sickening and telling if you ask me. I didn't notice this as much until i moved back and am still shocked at what i here from people who claim they arent racists. And after all that, I still say without a shred of doubt we are not a racist society.....does a poor black kid need to work harder then a rich white kid in a good family to get ahead? yup...but the same is true for that poor white trailer park kid vs. the rich black kid from a good family... you can plug in any race or color into that equation and get teh same result..it's all about money and the good ole boy network...life sucks but thats the truth

but sure keep up the white guilt ..keep beating the drum to the same old tune jackson and sharpton play...someone needs to pay for their custom tailored sutis, limo's and private jets....

the only race problem we have in this country is people not moving forward and accepting 2 things

1. - EVERYONE is racial...it is human nature get over it. How you let those "racial" feelings control your actions decides whether you are a racists or not. as a country..we are NOT!

2. - the supposed "race" problem we have in this country is a farse..it is a class problem. the poor stay poor and the rich get richer. There are no white activists like jackson/sharpton running around trailer parks in middle america crying about the plights of the poor white trailer trash so people often forget about them.