Help Stop the Ban of Youth Motorcycles and ATVs!

[markbvt]

It gets better -- turns out the powersports industry isn't the only one affected. The independent-testing requirements in this law make it effectively impossible to produce ANY products for children under 12. The Kneeslider has a good post about it with some very informative links:
http://thekneeslider.com/archives/20...ooks-and-toys/

The practical real-world effect (due to the extensive third-party testing requirements) is basically that this law legislates all children's products out of existence. Truly, stunningly stupid.

--mark

[QuarterGig]

Umm, got a responce from my Senitor and she said they are changing it so it is OK to have lead in places the kids can't access and also in things you cannot make at all without lead.... I'm not worried. it is just a huchup

[QuarterGig]

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09120.html

bullet point 3..

Accept a manufacturer’s determination that a lead-containing part on their product is inaccessible to a child and not subject to the new lead limits, if it is consistent with the Commission’s proposed guidance or is based on a reasonable reading of the inaccessibility requirement. Paint and other coatings or electroplating are not considered barriers that make a component inaccessible

[Doc]

So if I purchase the bike then it is not intended for my child and it is intended for me I should still be able to buy one right?

[seth399]

So if I purchase the bike then it is not intended for my child and it is intended for me I should still be able to buy one right?

no

[markbvt]

I've actually been wondering if the manufacturers could get around the law by marketing those bikes as pit bikes intended for adults.

--mark

[oVTo]

Check the manufacturers' websites - the little bikes are not for sale. At least they weren't a few days ago.

[Rye]

This is the Consumer Product Safety Act of 2008, signed last August by Pres. Bush. A higher percentage of Republican Representatives voted in favor of this Act than Democrats. The final rule for ATVs was set on November 14, 2008, a couple of months before the inauguration. Of course, we should never let the facts get in the way of a good rant...

It's more like 2 comments there, charm.

[Degsy]

I still cannot believe this has happened. If it doesn't get amended it will be a sad day for us all.

Land of the free, my ass. They should take that line out of the national anthem.

i'm reconsidering my citizenship application.

[QuarterGig]

it did get amended..

see my previous posts..

[Degsy]

it did get amended..

see my previous posts..

Very ambiguous, and it that is CPSC guidelines, not an amendment to the law.

[QuarterGig]

Very ambiguous, and it that is CPSC guidelines, not an amendment to the law.

i guess i am confused, because as i understand it the law built around those guidelines.

[eboos]

That hasn't brought anything back on the market yet, so...

[Degsy]

i guess i am confused, because as i understand it the law built around those guidelines.

Well, I don't profess to be a legal expert but I believe that the law is passed by senate and congress as initially written, so the law says something to the effect of "any toy or item designed for use by person under 12 containing lead paint". Then the CPSC say that under their guidelines they will be making a new rule that if the lead is not accessible to the little biter's teeth then they won't be reporting the item or seller. That doesn't change the law. That just changes the way the CPSC choose to enforce their procedures. That leaves people open to prosecution by law enforcement.

[QuarterGig]

That hasn't brought anything back on the market yet, so...

i think that is coming from a decree by the manufactures.

[richw]

They are still selling power wheels and replacement lead acid batteries

SO this an attack against powersports

[eboos]

They are still selling power wheels and replacement lead acid batteries

SO this an attack against powersports

See my post about this.
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...ens-items.html

[richw]

Tin Foil TIme
Your new government is now full of Gaeaists unchained. Removing earth hurting ORV's of anykind is a religious mission.

[QuarterGig]

What?? this is an anti lead in childrens toys thing... not a anti-ORV thing.. and it is not a current adminstration thing it has been in the works for a while..

[oVTo]

Tin Foil TIme
Your new government is now full of Gaeaists unchained. Removing earth hurting ORV's of anykind is a religious mission.

The only problem with that theory is that this was signed, sealed, and delivered in 2008, before the new administration. It just took effect in 2009.

It was overwhelmingly approved by both parties and signed by Pres. Bush last August. The CPSC approved the detailed implementation before the inauguration.

Maybe Obama's goverment is totally Gaea, but they didn't have anything to do with this particular fiasco.

[RandyO]

The US has gotten so REactive that no one even knows how to be PROactive anymore. Fixing the real problems (like getting painted parts from countries without the same standards as us) is too time consuming, so they just put a ban up to make it "easier" on the consumer.

so you propose that we be proactive and introduce solutions to imaginary problems


Main Entry: pro·ac·tive
Pronunciation: \(ˌ)prō-ˈak-tiv\
Function: adjective
Date: 1933
1 [1pro-] : relating to, caused by, or being interference between previous learning and the recall or performance of later learning <proactive inhibition of memory>
2 [2pro- + reactive] : acting in anticipation of future problems, needs, or changes
— pro·ac·tive·ly adverb

I think we should go back to being reactive

[eboos]

This is the reply I got today.

Dear Mr. Boos:

Thank you for your letter on recent safety recalls of tainted food and consumer goods. I share your concerns and I appreciate this opportunity to respond.

It is the responsibility of the Food and Drug Administration to inspect and safeguard the nation's food supply, in order to prevent outbreaks of food-based illnesses and contain such outbreaks when they do occur.

To help the FDA accomplish these goals, the Senate has passed several measures to reinforce and improve the FDA, and I am proud to have been a sponsor of the FDA Revitalization Act, which strengthens the FDA's ability to inspect food and expand its notification process so that the public can learn sooner about outbreaks and recalls sooner.

Our people expect and deserve that their food supply and consumer products are safe. I strongly support the agencies responsible for inspecting food and goods, and when necessary, and I'm doing all I can to see that they have the authority and support they need to protect the American public.

Thank you for contacting me on this important subject.



Sincerely,
Edward M. Kennedy

Clearly this has fallen on deaf ears. Unless of course youth motorcycles are now considered a food product.

[richw]

I got from Lieberman office

Gibbly fibit tra la trea la

Gogo flatch mick farlkle ding dong

Thank you
Senator Joe

[RyanNicholson]

Copied from the ARRA website:
http://www.arra-access.com/campaign/adv_s608#

Senate Bill to Overturn Ban on Youth ATVs and Dirt Bikes Introduced!

Weigh in to Have Your Voice Heard!

Youth sized ATVs and dirt bikes are still banned. We need your help to continue to build enough pressure to get the ban overturned. It is unlikely that the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) will act to approve the Motorcycle Industry Council’s petition to grant regulatory relief. This means we need Congress to act.

Senator Tester (D-MT) has introduced legislation, S. 608 that would stop the ban. Please click the Send This Message button below to urge your Senators and Members of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee to support this bill.

ARRA members have responded in huge numbers on this issue already, but it is important that you continue to have your voice heard.

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http://www.arra-access.com/campaign/adv_s608#

[seth399]